Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Timothy Coalson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Richard Elling < richard.ell...@richardelling.com> wrote: > > > On the target system I am seeing writes up to > >> 160 MB/s with frequent zpool iostat probes. When iostat probes are up to > >> 5s+, there is a steady stream of 62 MB/s. > > > > I believe this *may* m

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 31, 2012, at 3:37 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > 2012-10-31 13:58, Sebastian Gabler wrote: >>> 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: >Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 >MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for >imp

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 31, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: >> 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: >>> Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable >>> 62 >>> MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for >>> improvement. >> >> Does your gigabit et

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jerry Kemp
I used WindowMaker for a couple years myself. It is an easy compile on *Solaris and works well. At least it compiled easy for me. I ultimately went back to OpenWindows. I own a "large stock" of Solaris 8 media, so I will never be without my OpenWindows packages. Jerry Kemp On 10/31/12 08:18

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Gregory S. Youngblood
WindowMaker sounds good. Used it for a while a few years ago. Been thinking about looking at it again. :) -- Sent from my Jelly Bean Galaxy Nexus Christopher Chan wrote: > > >On Thursday, November 01, 2012 03:01 AM, Ben Taylor wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabel wrote: >>>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, November 01, 2012 03:01 AM, Ben Taylor wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabel wrote: I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential user base.It would not be the corre

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Christopher Chan
webmin? Ick. Swapping a desktop gui for a web gui...still get a gui. So just "offshore" the gui problem eh? On Thursday, November 01, 2012 06:55 AM, Roel_D wrote: A GUI is only needed when you want to use the gui I see more benefit in better webmin-support for zfs, mysql and other server

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, mag...@yonderway.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:25:13 +, openbabel wrote: As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail? This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. I would take more issue with the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Julius Roberts
On 1 November 2012 09:48, Maxim Kondratovich wrote: > So why OI has DE at all? Leading to your logic community has to cut off DE > from distribution at all... And what we will have? Another one illumos based > server distribution?! The community will do whatever the community wants :) I'm just sa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Roel_D
A GUI is only needed when you want to use the gui I see more benefit in better webmin-support for zfs, mysql and other serversoftware. Kind regards, The out-side Op 31 okt. 2012 om 23:30 heeft Julius Roberts het volgende geschreven: > On 1 November 2012 02:33, wrote: >> This is base

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Hedemark
I never suggested stopping DE development. I merely suggested that thinking of OI as an enterprise desktop OS is trying to sell an idea that enterprises aren't going to buy. I'm actually going to switch from Mac to OI laptop after the holidays (getting crazier with age). Sent from my typewriter

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Maxim Kondratovich
So why OI has DE at all? Leading to your logic community has to cut off DE from distribution at all... And what we will have? Another one illumos based server distribution?! I see OI as OS for general purposes, so stopping development in DE will decrease value of OI. Yes, community is to small

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Julius Roberts
On 1 November 2012 02:33, wrote: > This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise > desktop operating system. +1. There are alot of very useful desktop operating systems already, so i see no point in OI trying to compete with them. In business speak OI has a sustainable c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Ben Taylor
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:25 AM, openbabel wrote: > > I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and > most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential > user base.It would not be the correct choice > going with a project which either peters out

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread magnus
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:25:13 +, openbabel wrote: > As an Enterprise system the commercial view should prevail? This is based on the false premise that OpenIndiana is an enterprise desktop operating system. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list Op

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread openbabel
I am of a commercial view. I am interested in the most popular desktop and most developed environment which is accepted by the current or potential user base.It would not be the correct choice going with a project which either peters out or is not accepted by commercial users as this would was

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jonathan Adams
> Mate is a fork of Gnome 2 that already has a community behind it. Mint > features Mate as a key desktop choice. > http://mate-desktop.org/ except that Mate looks nothing like Gnome 2 ... so if the idea is to keep the look and feel of the current environment then Mate is not the way to go. We'd

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Nathan Kunkee
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:35:02 + > From: t12nsloo...@gmail.com > To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future > > from what I remember of the conversations of the time, we cannot move > to Gnome 3 because of certain Linux dependencies ..

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread magnus
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:27:59 -0400, låzaro wrote: > Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine > without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as > default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always > have the step in the next

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM, låzaro wrote: > Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine > without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as > default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always > have the step in the next tim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SS cc multithread compilation switch (e.g., Parrot)

2012-10-31 Thread James Carlson
On 10/31/2012 9:49 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > Thanks a lot for this info, it's a pity that this isn't documented > well, I also read the Multithread Guide > > and it's all not entirely complete nor completely consistent..

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SS cc multithread compilation switch (e.g., Parrot)

2012-10-31 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 31/10/2012 14:24, James Carlson wrote: On 10/31/2012 8:34 AM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: I don't know where you get your information from, this original documentation says something else: PSARC 2001/287 is the source of most of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread Jonathan Adams
from what I remember of the conversations of the time, we cannot move to Gnome 3 because of certain Linux dependencies ... Gnome 2 is no longer changing, and no longer being patched ... We don't have time or resources to support a Gnome 2 desktop system development fork (at least I don't and I do

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnome and the future

2012-10-31 Thread låzaro
Hi all, as many people don't wanna see, gnome future is like a submarine without roof. So, my question. What about make the new gnome's fork as default desktop enviroment, just like is making linux mint. OI always have the step in the next time. That project look like very good with a lot of good t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: > > Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable > > 62 > > MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for > > improvement. > > Does your gigabit ethernet use Jumbo Frames (like 9000 or up to 16KB, > depending

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "bad mutex" crash?

2012-10-31 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
Rich fixed the account for me (thanks Rich!) -Original Message- From: Jason Matthews [mailto:ja...@broken.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:01 AM To: 'Discussion list for OpenIndiana' Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "bad mutex" crash? I will take a shot in the dark here. I i

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SS cc multithread compilation switch (e.g., Parrot)

2012-10-31 Thread James Carlson
On 10/30/12 13:03, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: > I see sometimes people linking with -lpthread (do NOT use -pthread), > without setting -mt for the Sun Studio compilers, see, e.g., > the Parrot (OI 151a7) config: > > /usr/lib/parrot/3.6.0/tools/lib/Parrot/Config/Generated.pm > > This is wrong and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-31 13:58, Sebastian Gabler wrote: 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: >Whereas that's relative: performance is still at a quite miserable 62 >MB/s through a gigabit link. Apparently, my environment has room for >improvement. Does your gigabit ethernet use Jumbo Frames (like 9000 o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to disable local/remote login, still allowing access to smb share?

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-31 2:40, Alex Smith (K4RNT) пишет: Don't do that, you may completely blow up the installation and keep anyone from using X-Windows. You may want to look at the user roles to see if that may do what you're looking for. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Robbie Crash wrote: But that doesn

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS remote receive

2012-10-31 Thread Sebastian Gabler
Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:03:13 +0400 From: Jim Klimov To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Message-ID:<50901661.9050...@cos.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 2012-10-30 19:21, Sebastian Gabler wrote: >Whereas that's relative: performan

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "bad mutex" crash?

2012-10-31 Thread Jason Matthews
I will take a shot in the dark here. I imagine the request will time out and be deleted in a few days. Then you could try again -- but I am just speculating. If Jesus was a web developer, that's how he would do it. j. -Original Message- From: Dan Swartzendruber [mailto:dswa...@druber.co