Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-08-18 Thread Philip Robar
My apologies for taking so long to respond. I started a first draft of this and then forget to finish it before going on vacation. Phil On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Philip Robar philip.ro...@gmail.com writes: First, thank you sir for your repeated

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-27 Thread Nikola M.
On 07/24/14 07:34 PM, Philip Robar wrote: y short 1U case to my external drives. The SATA spec says that data cables I just think that is ludicrous to have one box where controller is and abother box where additional disks are and ,like, 16 SATA cables in between... It sounds more like Mickey

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-26 Thread Ed
On 07/24/14 17:28, Harry Putnam wrote: I bought the HP xw8600 with 2x Xeon (5470) cpus, 3.33 Ghz, ecc memory and 32 GB of it. I paid $775. The case and all the rest are in really superb shape and it does seem to be a workhorse and powerhouse. So, was I robbed? Hello, No, When

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread Nikola M.
On 07/23/14 08:34 PM, Philip Robar wrote: If you don't mind a mini rack sitting outside of your case this is an inexpensive ($30) option: http://www.sansdigital.com/storage-gadgets/hddrack5.html Huh, I think that is for mounting Inside the case , not outside, and to use same power supply from

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread Philip Robar
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Nikola M. minik...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/23/14 08:34 PM, Philip Robar wrote: If you don't mind a mini rack sitting outside of your case this is an inexpensive ($30) option: http://www.sansdigital.com/storage-gadgets/hddrack5.html Huh, I think that is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: [...] Lots of good input here. Can anyone tell me if it is better to have a cage with backplane. If backplane is just some raid rigamorole... probably useless for this But would a general sata backplane be any advantage? Far as I know this server

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread ken mays via openindiana-discuss
The power supply can handle the smaller drives very easily as they are not high-load devices. On Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:51 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: [...] Lots of good input here. Can anyone tell me if it is better to have a

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread Philip Robar
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if it is better to have a cage with backplane. If backplane is just some raid rigamorole... probably useless for this But would a general sata backplane be any advantage? For personal use it's mostly

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Philip Robar philip.ro...@gmail.com writes: First, thank you sir for your repeated good input. Personally, I want one of the tray less x in y bays just because I think that they look cool. (I lust for this case, but am too cheap to replace the used server I recently purchased on eBay for a

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-23 Thread Harry Putnam
I hope someone here will have some hideously clever idea about cramming about 4 more 3.5 HDD drives into an HP xw8600 server. I bought it used off ebay but I think it still has a pretty stock arrangement for hdd. A section fitted out to hold only 4 hdd. There is a space under the hdd brackets

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-23 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 07/23/14 11:13, Harry Putnam wrote: There is a space under the hdd brackets that looks like it could hold several more hdd, but would require some specialized hardware from HP or clever use of duct tape etc. I'd lose the optical drives (booting off of USB sticks is faster anyway) and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-23 Thread Philip Robar
One option might be an x in y drive bay that slides into the top forward facing builtin drive bay. (Where x y.) These are available in both hot and non-hot swapping versions. They use fan(s) forcing air over the drives to keep the temps down. Search on drive bays or drive cage to get an idea of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-23 Thread Bryan N Iotti
, 2014 20:14 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Reply To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600 I hope someone here will have some hideously clever idea about cramming about 4 more 3.5 HDD drives into an HP xw8600 server. I bought

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cram more drives into an HP xw8600

2014-07-23 Thread Philip Robar
The tray less cages that Bill and I mentioned can be a little pricy ($100 +/-) so be aware that there are less expensive x in y options, both tray and tray less, that don't have backplanes* that the drives plug into, i.e. they are just bays that house the drives closer together and include a fan