Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Peter Tribble писал 16.12.2015 19:22: On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: As for my personal plans, I'd like to look at porting Mate now. Just as a matter of interest, are you thinking of MATE as an additional desktop environment, or as a replacement for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > > As for my personal plans, I'd like to look at porting Mate now. > Just as a matter of interest, are you thinking of MATE as an additional desktop environment, or as a replacement for JDS/Gnome? I found it pretty easy to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Rich Teer wrote: > This conversation reminds me of this old chestnut: > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What's the most annoying thing on

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Ian Collins wrote: > There is only one of you writing, but many reading. That's why decent > threading and quoting is important on technical lists! This conversation reminds me of this old chestnut: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Sorry, Nicola, but is _this_ the kind of problems that should be > discussed in the OI community? I would have thought there are more > serious subjects to ponder... There is only one of you writing, but many reading. That's why decent threading and quoting is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

: dinsdag 8 december 2015 16:25 Aan: Discussion list for OpenIndiana <openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> Onderwerp: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jim Klimov <jimkli...@cos.ru> wrote: > > >From: Tim Mooney [mailto:tim.moo...@n

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) > >In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production), >Stefan...: > >> first of all, don't get me wrong. It wasn't the difference in >security >> fix frequency that I called a good point but th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > > >From: Tim Mooney [mailto:tim.moo...@ndsu.edu] > > > > >I'm trying to find a way to verify component security that doesn't rely > >on more work from the few people that are already doing the security > >work, but it's not

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015, Jim Klimov wrote: Might it make sense to use some pkg(5) metadata to list the cve's known covered by a particular release+patch recipe used in the build? I know i'd quickly stop maintaining such data though, but there may be even pedantical people than mysekf out there ;)

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

In message , Bob F riesenhahn writes: >I notice that pkgsrc offers a feature whereby known defects against >the installed versions may be listed. This is querying some sort of >remote database. I find FreeBSD's security announcements

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production), Stefan...: first of all, don't get me wrong. It wasn't the difference in security fix frequency that I called a good point but the relevance of it. I sure would not insult those keeping my favorite server OS alive! And great

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

You around tomorrow? Paul -Original Message- From: Tim Mooney [mailto:tim.moo...@ndsu.edu] Sent: 07 December 2015 15:28 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/ 7/15 06:48 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I think there needs to be some change that provides for a clear way for businesses to account for donations to open source organizations and developers. Right now, from what I've seen mentioned before, typical accounting departments have

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/ 6/15 08:37 PM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Hi Nicola, unfortunately I'm forced to use MS OWA so unless you know of a way to indent mails on reply or better associate them to previous mails, I can't do too much about this. Sorry if this annoys you, but that is how it is. Whatever you

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production),...: What would help me (and hopefully others) is if there were documentation on how we can verify whether an OI /dev package includes a particular patch. Does that documentation exist? For /hipster to check if particular

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Private openbabel [mailto:openba...@gmail.com] Verzonden: zondag 6 december 2015 22:00 Aan: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Onderwerp: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On 05/12/2015 21:16, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Fri, 4 Dec 2

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015, Tim Mooney wrote: What would help me (and hopefully others) is if there were documentation on how we can verify whether an OI /dev package includes a particular patch. Does that documentation exist? Part of the issue is that if I run the software update utility or pkg

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production), Bob...: Take libpng for example. The latest OI /dev ships is 1.4.12. Everything before 1.4.17 is vulnerable to CVE-2015-7981 and CVE-2015-8126. Let's say that I had just installed a8 today and then updated to a9, so I

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On 12/ 6/15 01:15 AM, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: > Hi Alex, > Hi, Stefan Müller-Wilken , just a side note: Please start hitting 'reply' button on messaged on topic/thread, or changing mail client application that allows it (like Thunderbird,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/ 6/15 12:59 PM, Private openbabel wrote: Dear Bob, I would like to see a foundation registered in the UK in early 2016 to receive donations and sponsorship similar to Libre Office.This will help with some of the development objectives outlined. Will it? Are there going to be enough

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

That would require to have some hipster release that can be positively > upgraded to. > Then let us just finish migrating the consolidations to oi-userland so that we can talk about the next Hipster snapshot being frozen and promoted to /dev. -resurrect GUI update, (python devs welcome) >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/05/2015 00:43, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Good point, indeed. Just curious: But isn't that something all Illumos distributions have in common? Bad point. I watch latest news and try to fix security issues which are known. I suspect that there could be issues in GUI programs (as our

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> > Two project proposals for student in computer sciences at KTH Stockholm > were formulated for that, it would be great if they are picked. > Great idea! And this is very good idea to have young people getting involved with OI. IMHO this is the only way to get things like KMS, USB3, etc.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

] Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Dezember 2015 13:57 An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On 12/05/2015 00:43, Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: > Good point, indeed. Just curious: But isn't that something all Illumos > distributions have in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/ 4/15 04:01 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: On 12/04/2015 17:16, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Alexander Pyhalov, Thu Dec 3 12:39:35 UTC 2015: > As for /dev, I think it's not a big secret that it's efficiently dead. Nikola M, Thu Dec 3 18:46:38 UTC 2015: > It is not big secret that hipster is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

>>> what speaks against using OI in server use? >> Security updates. > Good point, indeed. Just curious: But isn't that something all Illumos > distributions have in common? No. SmartOS and OmniOS get prompt security updates as CVEs and other announcements become available. -- Joshua M.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015, Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator wrote: Also, number of people involved in OS maintenance made me suggest SmartOS or OmniIT... OmniOS succeeds due to its quite limited scope rather than a large number of maintainers. It leaves the responsibility for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/04/2015 18:18, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot of work to do. But the work should have a goal. "we try to ride the car and tune it simultaneously" - doesn't that mean that OI will never be ready for production use? As for what

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/ 4/15 04:18 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot of work to do. But the work should have a goal. "we try to ride the car and tune it simultaneously" - doesn't that mean that OI will never be ready for production use? As for what

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Alexander, and Predrag, Thank you for the information. Currently I am using OI 151a9 for a web/ftp/mail server exposed to Internet. I am satisfied with the stability but concerned that this branch is not supported. I will consider hipster next time when I need to setup a server (it may be an

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/04/2015 17:16, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Alexander Pyhalov, Thu Dec 3 12:39:35 UTC 2015: > As for /dev, I think it's not a big secret that it's efficiently dead. Nikola M, Thu Dec 3 18:46:38 UTC 2015: > It is not big secret that hipster is never planned for any kind of production What is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

, 4. Dezember 2015 16:33 An: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On 12/ 4/15 04:18 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot of > work to do. But the work should have a goa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Administrator [predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Dezember 2015 16:33 An: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) On 12/ 4/15 04:18 PM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Thank you for the detailed response. I understand that there is a lot of work to do. But the work should have a goal. "we try to ride the car and tune it simultaneously" - doesn't that mean that OI will never be ready for production use? As for what do I want to know... A simpler question:

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Alexander Pyhalov, Thu Dec 3 12:39:35 UTC 2015: > As for /dev, I think it's not a big secret that it's efficiently dead. Nikola M, Thu Dec 3 18:46:38 UTC 2015: > It is not big secret that hipster is never planned for any kind of production What is the plan then?

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

Hi, Gary. Gary Gendel писал 04.12.2015 19:16: I moved to OmniOS because I was unable to upgrade hipster at one point as it broke the bge driver (in a very frustrating way as it looked like all packets were being filtered). I tried several times as new releases were available without success.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

On 12/04/2015 11:06 AM, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: Alexander, and Predrag, Thank you for the information. Currently I am using OI 151a9 for a web/ftp/mail server exposed to Internet. I am satisfied with the stability but concerned that this branch is not supported. I will consider hipster next

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production), Stefan...: what speaks against using OI in server use? Security updates. Tim -- Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)

common? Von: Tim Mooney [tim.moo...@ndsu.edu] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Dezember 2015 17:56 An: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Betreff: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production) In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production), Stefan...: > wh