On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Peter Tribble
wrote:
> For regular distros there are a couple of major resource constraints:
> ZFS has a certain footprint. (Although it's somewhat overstated - I've
> run zfs based systems that have 512M of memory quite happily. Not
> as file servers, of course.)
Well, you were right; however, after spending the day with the bsds, I have
to conclude: They're nice; they're snappy, but they're no OpenSolaris / OI
/ Hipster in terms of overall usability, features and stability. We really
do have an awesome thing going over here. Just need it to be smaller ;
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Peter Tribble
wrote:
> If you want to get really minimalist then you could use ufs rather
> than zfs. This also saves the space needed for the drivers and tools,
> which isn't negligible. Tribblix again is one of the only distros to
> support installation to a ufs
You're welcome. I got even more curious and am starting to play with
FreeBSD too. Actually got the old jumpstart-style rarp/bootp/tftp/nfs
install thing working since I ran out of CDs in the wee hours of the
morning :\ It actually worked great.
I've quite a few SPARC machines ranging from SPA
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Jacob Ritorto
wrote:
> Wow. I just put OpenBSD on this thing and it runs like a pup. I'm really
> impressed. Is anyone besides Peter working on cruft-cutting and minimal
> system distribution of Illumos? If things can be this awesome on 1998
> hardware, we rea
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Jacob Ritorto
wrote:
> tribblix dies a few seconds after starting to boot with
> Loading: /platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/boot_archive
> Loading: /platform/sun4u/boot_archive
>
> Can't open boot_archive
> Fast Data Access MMU Miss
>
Hey, thanks for testing (and the bug
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jacob Ritorto
wrote:
> Going to recompile the bins on bsd.
> Absolutely LOVING the keyboard. Gosh, I missed that thing.
>
> Otherwise, yeah, don't need a pc here. I admit that I'm a little nervy
> about the bsd learning curve, but, hey - it's a nice thing to
Going to recompile the bins on bsd.
Absolutely LOVING the keyboard. Gosh, I missed that thing.
Otherwise, yeah, don't need a pc here. I admit that I'm a little nervy
about the bsd learning curve, but, hey - it's a nice thing to pick up along
the way.
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Jerry Ke
Wow. I just put OpenBSD on this thing and it runs like a pup. I'm really
impressed. Is anyone besides Peter working on cruft-cutting and minimal
system distribution of Illumos? If things can be this awesome on 1998
hardware, we really should aspire to this level of KISS, tidiness and
performanc
On 02/ 1/15 03:12 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Sure, but before spending much time on them, do bare in mind they are about same
performance as a 15-20 year old Pentium II system.
You could probably move all their workloads to a single current x86 system, and
have loads of CPU capacity left over,
On 02/ 1/15 01:50 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Jerry Kemp wrote:
You have taken it a lot further than I would have.
For an Ultra 5 or 10, I probably would not have gone past Solaris 10, and due
to your ram being well under 4 Gb, I would stay on UFS vs ZFS.
When you say "Solaris 11 install" in r
tribblix dies a few seconds after starting to boot with
Loading: /platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/boot_archive
Loading: /platform/sun4u/boot_archive
Can't open boot_archive
Fast Data Access MMU Miss
Bummer.
Thanks very much, nonetheless, for keeping SPARC in mind, Peter!
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 3:57
Well, true, but while I'm pretty pleased with and interested in helping
with Illumos et al, I'm just not that interested in owning a pc. I have
quite a number of SPARC machines and I'm fine with the performance of the
thing - this isn't a processor-intensive load, as you might imagine.
On Sun, Fe
Jacob Ritorto wrote:
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Gabriel
wrote:
Do you have to stick with SPARC? Your Ultra 5 is going to be way slower
than any current (and many old) x86 systems, which are supported by all the
Illumos distributions.
I don't have to; it's just t
Hmm, yeah, Tribblix sounds like a great option for my purposes. Is there X
support? That'd be nice so I can free up the other serial port. (Trying
to simultaneously run a serial console to the pdp11 as well as an emulated
tu58 drive via the other serial port.) I think I'll give it a whirl.
OpenB
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> Do you have to stick with SPARC? Your Ultra 5 is going to be way slower
> than any current (and many old) x86 systems, which are supported by all the
> Illumos distributions.
>
I don't have to; it's just that I have a number of these good o
adopt that old monster
just let me know, you will have to pick it up though...
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On 02/ 1/15 11:19 AM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Another option would be to use Solaris 11 Express if it still exists anywhere -
it's old, but not as old as snv_65. I think it still had sun4u support, but I
could be mistaken.
I don't think it's still available, but yes, Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 (
Jerry Kemp wrote:
You have taken it a lot further than I would have.
For an Ultra 5 or 10, I probably would not have gone past Solaris 10,
and due to your ram being well under 4 Gb, I would stay on UFS vs ZFS.
When you say "Solaris 11 install" in reference to this box, do you
mean an install
You have taken it a lot further than I would have.
For an Ultra 5 or 10, I probably would not have gone past Solaris 10, and due to
your ram being well under 4 Gb, I would stay on UFS vs ZFS.
When you say "Solaris 11 install" in reference to this box, do you mean an
install of Sun OpenSolaris
> Is it feasible to install Hipster or OI on such a meagerly appointed
> machine? I don't even have a dvd player; just cd.
>
> SunOS beep 5.11 snv_65 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
> Memory size: 256 Megabytes
>
That's a sparc box. You aren't going to be able to run OI
(any version, including hips
Jacob Ritorto wrote:
Hi,
My Solaris 11 install is getting a little long in the tooth and I still
use this poor old machine kind of a lot for small development, pdp11
emulation and its real serial ports, etc. I would like to keep it because
it's pretty low power, reliable as dirt, and still sup
Hi,
My Solaris 11 install is getting a little long in the tooth and I still
use this poor old machine kind of a lot for small development, pdp11
emulation and its real serial ports, etc. I would like to keep it because
it's pretty low power, reliable as dirt, and still supports the very
comforta
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