Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-08-16 Thread Bud P. Bruegger
Hi Alon, sorry I missed your response since it got filtered away without me being aware.. Better late than never, I suppose.. On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:47:46 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/2/07, Bud P. Bruegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alon, have you already made

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-08-09 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
But PKCS#11 is interactive API. How do you suggest the response to be handled? On 8/8/07, Ph. Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alon! Another idea I just had ... If the forwarding driver supports serializing the PKCS#11-commands, how about spooling them into some file, and replaying them

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-08-09 Thread Ph. Marek
Another idea I just had ... If the forwarding driver supports serializing the PKCS#11-commands, how about spooling them into some file, and replaying them somewhere else? This would allow disconnected smartcard initialization. But PKCS#11 is interactive API. How do you suggest the

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-07-02 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 7/2/07, Bud P. Bruegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alon, have you already made progress in the implementation? I was very interested in this since I'd like to write some non-traditional pkcs#11 module and I'd prefer to do that in python... I was wondering whether the forwarding driver

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-07-02 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 7/2/07, Jim Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We do something like this to translate kerberos tickets into cert/key usable from pkcs11. But it only makes sense if you have some way to convince the CA that it should sign the keypair and issue a cert. In our case that's kerberos. Otherwise,

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-07-02 Thread Timothy J. Miller
There is no getting around the enrollment trust problem. Most sensible smartcard and PKI deployments handle this via an enrollment ceremony that involves a face-to-face component. -- TIm On Jul 2, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On 7/2/07, Jim Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We do

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-10 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 5/10/07, Peter Stuge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This depends on the definition of standard. Secure shell is also a standard. The SSH agent protocol too. SSH is, SSH Agent protocol is specific to implementation. But what really matters is that the SSH agent protocol is already implemented

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-10 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Alon Bar-Lev wrote: If all application such as OpenSSL, GnuTLS, OpenVPN, OpenSSH, GnuPG, KDE, Gnome, Mozilla etc... would have supported one interface, hence PKCS#11, user will benafit from a secure environenment. Now days, a user should run about 5 separate agents on its machine in order to

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-09 Thread Ph. Marek
Hello Alon! On Dienstag, 8. Mai 2007, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On 5/8/07, Ph. Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to remember having read about a pkcs#11 forwarding driver, which allows to forward pkcs#11 calls eg. over a network - to use any pkcs#11 aware application (eg. firefox) with a

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-09 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 5/9/07, Ph. Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be very good! If there's something I can help you with (eg. testing), just ask -- I'll try to reserve some time for you. That's great! Do you have any implementation concepts/ideas? Or do you want start them here? Yes... Some thoughts:

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-09 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 5/9/07, Peter Stuge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://alon.barlev.googlepages.com/openssh-pkcs11 Yes, but that's not what I had in mind. SSH already secures and forwards ssh-agent communication. It would be more practical and possibly also more secure to have a proxy that looks like an

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-09 Thread Ph. Marek
Hello Alon! On Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Yes... Some thoughts: 1. The daemon will expose PKCS#11 interface as protected authentication path, so that applications will not require to set PIN. This will allow PKCS#11 single sign-on throughout several applications. 2.

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-09 Thread Peter Stuge
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:33:21AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: It would be more practical and possibly also more secure to have a proxy that looks like an ssh-agent What is the difference between implementing properietary proxy interface, and allowing openssh to use standard PKCS#11

[opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-08 Thread Ph. Marek
Hello everbody! I seem to remember having read about a pkcs#11 forwarding driver, which allows to forward pkcs#11 calls eg. over a network - to use any pkcs#11 aware application (eg. firefox) with a smartcard being connected to another system. Is that just a dream or does such a beast exist?

Re: [opensc-devel] PKCS#11 forwarding driver?

2007-05-08 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Wow, you would have to implement any kind of client server protocol, that is not part of pkcs11. Hm, such a thing sound very interesting... regards Cornelius Ph. Marek schrieb: Hello everbody! I seem to remember having read about a pkcs#11 forwarding driver, which allows to forward