Of Fly Man
[fly.man.open...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 June 2009 13:35
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge
Thomas,
The dispute has everything to do with OpenSim in general and not only
with those 2 people.
As it's not only OpenSimWiredux but the Search, Pr
;>> other developers because they did something while you were gone, is not a
>>> good reason.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
>>&
remove any code or projects
>> from the forge without an exceptionally good reason. A spat with other
>> developers because they did something while you were gone, is not a good
>> reason.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
&
. A spat with other
> developers because they did something while you were gone, is not a good
> reason.
>
> Adam
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
>> boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fly Man
>
Original Message-
> From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
> boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fly Man
> Sent: Sunday, 31 May 2009 7:54 PM
> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge
>
> Well, I can ke
nd others have gotten to the
> place where the need exists to make the statements said today.
>
> So, please, please, lets figure out how to just work together.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
>
> ____
> From: Fly Man
> To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.
.
Charles
From: Fly Man
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:53:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on GForge
Kyle, please read back what I posted earlier before you start to throw
with words that I won't respond t
Kyle Hamilton wrote:
> How about you check out the subversion tree at the last revision
> without the "whole mess that it is now"? That's what revision control
> systems are for, so you can check out old revisions. You can control
> your own experience -- while everyone else can cooperate as they
Kyle, please read back what I posted earlier before you start to throw
with words that I won't respond to:
* There's 2 people that just need to apoligize and then we can all get
back to what we're good in.
Unless those people step up and take responsibilty about their
actions, then it means that
How about you check out the subversion tree at the last revision
without the "whole mess that it is now"? That's what revision control
systems are for, so you can check out old revisions. You can control
your own experience -- while everyone else can cooperate as they want
to.
You should do this
Ideia, this problem can easily be resolved by 2 people that just say
sorry and revert back the things that they added to the OpenSimWiredux
so I can take a clean copy of the code without the whole mess that it
is now.
So, in other words as some won't know what I said on #opensim-dev:
Jamenai: Ple
Fly-Man
I do not know who is right in your disagreement, but I think if you had
something you were thinking that was not being done in the most correct,
I think the only way would have launched the discussion on mail-list
#opensim-dev and not just you away from everything and remove the work
Well, there is a way to revoke that and that has just been done.
The projects are closed. In the meanwhile, development has seized on
those projects (which I personally think is just wrong because this
can be solved by 2 people)
I clearly stated to people that I wasn't happy about the way some
th
gets
deleted. But each project determines what survives and is deleted. Usually for
reasons of obsolescence.
Charles
From: Kyle Hamilton
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:27:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Removal of project on G
Fly Man,
It simply doesn't work like that. You didn't make any mention of a
creative commons license at the time of posting. The projects have been
clearly tagged as BSD, i'm afraid there's no way for you to revoke that.
Tom.
Fly Man wrote:
> Thomas, everything I posted on the Gforge is under
Thomas, everything I posted on the Gforge is under my own license
first, then the BSD license applies.
So in other words, my own license is CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No
Derivative Works
After that, the BSD license that the Gforge has.
2009/5/31 Thomas Grimshaw
>
> Fly Man,
>
> Everything tha
Once you release something under the BSD license, anyone can do
anything with it, as long as the license is followed (i.e., the
copyright clause is followed). It cannot be retroactively removed.
Further, anything on the Forge, in the subversion, is openly
available. You can continue your developm
Fly Man,
Everything that you posted on Forge under the BSD license is in the
public domain. Of course, anything else you have made publicly is not.
I hope that your quarrel works itself out.
~Tom
Fly Man wrote:
> There's still a restriction on the things I made personally, those are
> license
But I will be waiting for a positive ending of this misunderstanding between
developers that not have tried to communicate with each other
2009/5/31 Mike Dickson
> I'm only using the WiRedux stuff of the modules you listed personally.
> But I don't think the BSD license works the way you think i
There's still a restriction on the things I made personally, those are
licensed to me.
Those aren't available on the trunks of those projects and those pieces are
closed source.
As long as the 2 things I mentioned in the #opensim-dev are being handled, I
won't have to call upon these drastic meas
I'm only using the WiRedux stuff of the modules you listed personally.
But I don't think the BSD license works the way you think it does.
Attribution is certainly required by the license and no reason you
couldn't do a closed source version based on it. But what you put out
under a BSD license is
Addition to the previous message:
This means that all the source needs to be deleted as stated under
BSD.license and will not be re-uploaded to the Gforge or any other Gforge or
SVN like system.
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Goodmorning everyone,
As a result of argument between Nebadon, Jamenai and myself about
OpenWiredux I decided to step down as a developer on that project.
Also the other projects that I maintain have seized development.
Please remove the following projects from the Gforge asap as they'll be
clos
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