[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-25 Thread Roland Mainz
John Plocher wrote: [snip] Rest assured that everyone I know who is involved in this ksh93 discussion wants the project to succeed. They just want it to succeed in a way that does the least damage to the existing Open- and Closed-Solaris systems, and in a way that best provides for the future

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-25 Thread Joseph Kowalski
From: Roland Mainz roland.mainz at nrubsig.org ... John Plocher wrote: [snip] Rest assured that everyone I know who is involved in this ksh93 discussion wants the project to succeed. They just want it to succeed in a way that does the least damage to the existing Open- and

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Martin Schaffstall wrote: On 9/21/06, Casper.Dik at sun.com Casper.Dik at sun.com wrote: [snip] Why doesn't apply the same argumentation to libshell in the root filesystem, too ? Because we need one shell and /sbin/sh suffices for now. Sounds you like being a little sadist and punish

sync builtin in ksh93 ? / was: Re: [osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Joerg Schilling wrote: [snip] If we talk about thiese functions, I still do not understand why ksh still not includes sync as builtin while my bsh (where I did start with a cursor editable history between 1982 and 1984) includes the sync command as builtin since 1982. This did save me a lot

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-22 Thread casper....@sun.com
An additional problem, and one which deeply muddied the debate, is that some stuff in OS/Net probably should be elsewhere (says I), and those things are themselves grandfathered in. We should consider moving them out to SFW. A hopefully uncontroversial example of this is libtecla. And if

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph Kowalski
From: Roland Mainz roland.mainz at nrubsig.org ... Casper.Dik at Sun.COM wrote: [snip] If not, then this case would open the doors for but his ksh93 is in /sbin, I want my bash/zsh/tcsh there too. Neither bash/zsh/tcsh are ~5k in size (just measuring the ksh93 frontend binary) ...

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph Kowalski
Look! No inclusions I, for one, would not be satisfied with this in /usr/sfw or as part of the companion CD. This needs to be a first rate citizen of Solaris. Besides, /usr/sfw was a bad idea. Other than the name, it turns out to be *my* bad idea. The Solaris Binary Compatibility

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
Joseph Kowalski writes: Look! No inclusions I, for one, would not be satisfied with this in /usr/sfw or as part of the companion CD. This needs to be a first rate citizen of Solaris. Nor would I. Fortunately, that has nothing to do with the original suggestion. The SFW suggestion

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph Kowalski
From: James Carlson james.d.carlson at sun.com ... Joseph Kowalski writes: Look! No inclusions I, for one, would not be satisfied with this in /usr/sfw or as part of the companion CD. This needs to be a first rate citizen of Solaris. Nor would I. Fortunately, that has

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread James Carlson
Joseph Kowalski writes: Unless something ends up as Consolidation Private, the actual consolidation isn't a concern. Right. You'd think so, but apparently the project team is quite adamant that ON is the only acceptable answer. I'm afraid I don't understand why that might be, but as long as

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Dan Price
On Thu 21 Sep 2006 at 09:45PM, James Carlson wrote: Joseph Kowalski writes: Unless something ends up as Consolidation Private, the actual consolidation isn't a concern. Right. You'd think so, but apparently the project team is quite adamant that ON is the only acceptable answer. I'm

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Kupfer
Dan == Dan Price dp at eng.sun.com writes: Dan I plan to work to raise awareness among the CTeams that we need to Dan hash out a policy which can apply to future incoming work. I started a thread on this subject (what goes into which consolidation) earlier in the week on program-team at

[osol-arc] Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: Korn Shell93Integration[PSARC-EXT/2006/550 Timeout: 09/27/2006]

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph Kowalski
From: Roland Mainz roland.mainz at nrubsig.org ... Joseph Kowalski wrote: From: Roland Mainz roland.mainz at nrubsig.org [snip] 2)/sbin/ksh98 doesn't work without /usr mounted, which not only defeats the only possible justification for putting it in /sbin