Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Roundtwo:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Peter Memishian
> > > > > ./lib/libast/common/features/* > > > > > ./lib/libcmd/common/features/* > > > > > ./lib/libdll/common/features/* > > > > > ./lib/libshell/common/features/* > > > > > > These are feature probes (e.g. for "iffe"&co.), they're used to > > > generate the matching platform-specific

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Roundtwo:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Roland Mainz
Peter Memishian wrote: > > > Let's ignore the ATT Makefiles for a while. Are there other files > > you'd like to see removed? A list based on Roland's annotated list > > would be nice. > > Eliminating the ones that he called out as Documentation or tests, and > reordering/compressing things a

Re: [osol-code]Roundtwo:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Roland Mainz
Richard Lowe wrote: > John Plocher wrote: > > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: [snip] > > In much the same way that we generate C sources via rpcgen, the > > ksh93 build process could [diff/patch, rename, exclude, etc] the > > files found in the baseline tree to create the OpenSolaris-specific > > source

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Roundtwo:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Roland Mainz
Mike Kupfer wrote: > > > "Roland" == Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Roland> For example: If we remove the "feature probes" (which build the > Roland> majority of the "possibly (maybe) unused files"-list) - how can > Roland> I refresh the generated file "in place" and create a pa

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 3/8/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In much the same way that we generate C sources via rpcgen, the > > ksh93 build process could [diff/patch, rename, exclude, etc] the > > files found in the baseline tree to create the OpenSolaris-sp

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 3/8/07, John Plocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Lowe wrote: > No So, since it seems likely that the ksh93 project will need/desire to keep this stuff around, where is it expected to live? As I read Roland's comments (and, I admit I probably am confused), it seems like he is desperat

Re: [osol-code] Add to psrinfo -vp output on x86

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Mick
Thanks for all the opinions, folks. I'll file the RFE and RTI today. ___ opensolaris-code mailing list opensolaris-code@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-code

Re: [osol-code] Add to psrinfo -vp output on x86

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Mick
Garrett D'Amore wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Kolbasov wrote: psrinfo -vp currently outputs processor IDs in 'digested' form: The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0) x86 (AuthenticAMD family 15 model 37 step 1 clock 2210 MHz) AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 84

Re: [osol-code] Re: The original Bourne shell - still an appropriate choice for a modern OS?

2007-03-08 Thread Garrett D'Amore
Boyd Adamson wrote: > On 3/8/07, Garrett D'Amore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now, NetBSD is a totally different beast. They provide a lot of >> backwards compatibility, and generally any incompatible change that >> might cause breakage is heavily frowned upon. There have been >> exceptions, but

Re: [osol-code] Add to psrinfo -vp output on x86

2007-03-08 Thread Garrett D'Amore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Alexander Kolbasov wrote: >> psrinfo -vp currently outputs processor IDs in 'digested' form: The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0) x86 (AuthenticAMD family 15 model 37 step 1 clock 2210 MHz) AMD Opteron(tm) Processor

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Peter Memishian
> Let's ignore the ATT Makefiles for a while. Are there other files > you'd like to see removed? A list based on Roland's annotated list > would be nice. Eliminating the ones that he called out as Documentation or tests, and reordering/compressing things a bit for clarity: > > > ./lib/libsh

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 3/8/07, Peter Memishian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The one reason I can think of to keep them is that they provide some > > > clues about how ksh93 is built using the ATT toolset. So, for example, > > > if we run into problems, they provide a comparison point. And if the > > >

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Peter Memishian
> > What do you mean with "diffs" in this case ? > > I meant the difference between one ATT Makefile and another. Sorry, that was poorly stated -- I meant "one revision of a given ATT Makefile and another revision of it". -- meem ___ opensolaris-

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Peter Memishian
> > > The one reason I can think of to keep them is that they provide some > > > clues about how ksh93 is built using the ATT toolset. So, for example, > > > if we run into problems, they provide a comparison point. And if the > > > upstream version changes, the diffs for the ATT makefil

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
"I. Szczesniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/8/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I. Szczesniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This is not analogous to rpcgen, this is patching a fairly large > > > > > component > > > > > into the ON world *at build time*. Such t

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 3/8/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "I. Szczesniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not analogous to rpcgen, this is patching a fairly large component > > > into the ON world *at build time*. Such that we don't actually have the > > > sources we build in the tree at a

Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
"I. Szczesniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not analogous to rpcgen, this is patching a fairly large component > > > into the ON world *at build time*. Such that we don't actually have the > > > sources we build in the tree at all, but instead have the original sources > > > and a co

Re: [osol-code] Re: ksh93 busybox (was: Re: perl in Solaris (was Re: Re:

2007-03-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I gather BusyBox is intended for use in embedded distributions only, > not "normal" ones constrained by backwards compatibility. In those > situations, it would replace a bunch of commands. > > I would imagine the idea would be to reimplement it

Re: [osol-code] Add to psrinfo -vp output on x86

2007-03-08 Thread James Carlson
Dan Mick writes: > Does anyone think that either 1) this is a bad idea, or 2) that ARC is > interested in this output format change, I think it's a good idea, and it looks to me like the sort of change that would reasonably fly beneath the ARC's radar. > or 3) that anyone else has an > opinion as

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Joerg Schilling
Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In much the same way that we generate C sources via rpcgen, the > > ksh93 build process could [diff/patch, rename, exclude, etc] the > > files found in the baseline tree to create the OpenSolaris-specific > > source tree. And then build that tree. > > N

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread John Plocher
Richard Lowe wrote: > No So, since it seems likely that the ksh93 project will need/desire to keep this stuff around, where is it expected to live? As I read Roland's comments (and, I admit I probably am confused), it seems like he is desperately trying to keep the original ATT code (makefiles..

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Darren J Moffat
John Plocher wrote: Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 04:03:19AM +0100, Roland Mainz wrote: Grumpf... Am I correct in thinking that your concerns around removing these files are entirely a result of a belief that the structure of the code should be optimised for bulk upgrades fr

Re: [osol-code] Round two:((pre-)pre-review)ksh93-integrationwebrev2007-02-02

2007-03-08 Thread Richard Lowe
John Plocher wrote: Keith M Wesolowski wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 04:03:19AM +0100, Roland Mainz wrote: Grumpf... Am I correct in thinking that your concerns around removing these files are entirely a result of a belief that the structure of the code should be optimised for bulk upgrades fr

Re: [osol-code] Re: The original Bourne shell - still an appropriate choice for a modern OS?

2007-03-08 Thread Boyd Adamson
On 3/8/07, Garrett D'Amore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now, NetBSD is a totally different beast. They provide a lot of backwards compatibility, and generally any incompatible change that might cause breakage is heavily frowned upon. There have been exceptions, but they are few and far between.

Re: [osol-code] Add to psrinfo -vp output on x86

2007-03-08 Thread Casper . Dik
>Alexander Kolbasov wrote: >>> psrinfo -vp currently outputs processor IDs in 'digested' form: >>> >>> The physical processor has 1 virtual processor (0) >>>x86 (AuthenticAMD family 15 model 37 step 1 clock 2210 MHz) >>> AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 848 >> >> Note that psrinfo doesn't d

[osol-code] Re: The original Bourne shell - still an appropriate choice for a

2007-03-08 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
If you want everyone to get a POSIX shell: * give everyone /usr/xpg4/bin/sh as their shell * put PATH=`getconf CS_PATH`;export PATH in /etc/profile * put that same PATH value (expanded) in /etc/default/init I think that would probably do it...maybe I missed something. AFAIK, all POSIX requires is

[osol-code] Community Priorities/Polling Test open

2007-03-08 Thread Stephen Hahn
The Board has asked that the polling system being used to conduct the upcoming Board election first be tested in a meaningful way, by asking the Community's Core Contributors to prioritize potential Board initiatives for the coming year. This test poll opened at 00:00 PST March 8 a