[osol-discuss] Project Presto is open for business...

Yesterday, a new project page was added to the OpenSolaris project list for Presto - Automatic Printing Configuration Presto aims to simplify and automate printing related configuration management task allowing Solaris to dynamically adapt t

[osol-discuss] Recommended g++ reading pdf: "A Common Vendor ABI for C++"

One of the main QEMU co-contributors (besides Fabrice Bellard) is working there: Paul Brook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I got the following interesting url that way: http://www.codesourcery.com/public/publications/a_common_vendor_abi_for_cplusplus.pdf A Common Vendor ABI for C++

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

Congrats to the now approved KDE on OpenSolaris project - to you, Roland, John Sonnenschein and everyone else who supports this! Regards, Martin /* thread now closed */ [-] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

On Thursday 18 January 2007 19:02, Martin Bochnig wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: (MB) > > Stefan Teleman wrote: (ST) > > ST>>At most, you can say that the intersection between KDE e.V. and > ST>>OpenSolaris is not the Null Set, since it contains at least one > known ST>>element. :-) > ST>> > ST>>--

Re: [osol-discuss] Cheap ZFS homeserver.

. wrote: >So after toying around with some stuff a few months back I got bogged down and >set this project aside for a while. Time to revisit. > >Looking around there still is not a good "these cards/motherboards" work list. >the HCL is hardly ever updated, and its far more geared towards bus

[osol-discuss] Cheap ZFS homeserver.

So after toying around with some stuff a few months back I got bogged down and set this project aside for a while. Time to revisit. Looking around there still is not a good "these cards/motherboards" work list. the HCL is hardly ever updated, and its far more geared towards business use than

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

Martin Bochnig wrote: (MB) Stefan Teleman wrote: (ST) > ST>>At most, you can say that the intersection between KDE e.V. and ST>>OpenSolaris is not the Null Set, since it contains at least one known ST>>element. :-) ST>> ST>>--Stefan >> > > MB>However, it depends on how the original unequations are

[osol-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-discuss

For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = opensolaris-discuss 01/01 - 01/15 = Size of all threads du

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

On Thursday 18 January 2007 10:26, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Or be compatible with both, like the solaris core? > > (and let the distros choose which ABI they prefer) > > If they really use C++ library interfaces it may be impossible. > > BTW: how do you like to separate CC and g++ created librari

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:33:47 -0600 (CST) From: Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project Thanks, Roland.

[osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

> On 1/17/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Roland Mainz wrote: > > > John Sonnenschein wrote: > > >> Following the official proposal guidelines, I'd > like to take this opportunity to propose that we > collaborate with the KDE e.V. and kde-core-devel in > order to integrate KDE

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

Martin Bochnig wrote: >Good and careful ABI-stability handling with SunCC: >http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/articles/CC_abi/CC_abi_content.html >"Here an ABI, There an ABI ..." (article does not cover gcc/g++ at all, >only the Sun-C and C++ compilers cc/CC over time) > > >On the other hand g+

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

John Plocher wrote: > Stefan Teleman wrote: > >> SunProCC's and g++'s C++ ABI's are incompatible. This is noone's >> fault really, the C++ ABI has never been formalized. > > > There exists a formal C++ ABI for SPARC that the Sun Compilers adhere to. > I presume that the same ABI (modulo bit/byte o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

Stefan Teleman wrote: SunProCC's and g++'s C++ ABI's are incompatible. This is noone's fault really, the C++ ABI has never been formalized. There exists a formal C++ ABI for SPARC that the Sun Compilers adhere to. I presume that the same ABI (modulo bit/byte order...) is also implemented for x6

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

Joerg Schilling wrote: BTW: how do you like to separate CC and g++ created libraries in /usr/lib/? Data Point: The current architecture of Solaris (Note, not necessarily OpenSolaris) is that C++ ABIs are undesirable (with a preference is for the ABI C bindings), but if they are required, they

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an Open

On 1/18/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 6. The distribution should be compiled with the Sun > > > Studio compilers (as > > > a mandatory requirement for the project). No gcc > > > junk. > > Or be compatible with both, like the solaris core? > > (and let the distros choose which

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

On Thursday 18 January 2007 10:26, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Or be compatible with both, like the solaris core? > > (and let the distros choose which ABI they prefer) > > If they really use C++ library interfaces it may be impossible. > > BTW: how do you like to separate CC and g++ created librari

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is SXCR Build 55?

> Ron Halstead wrote: >> The subject says it all. Its been a month since the last one and I can't >> wait to get my printer working again. Well, you can always run with Solaris 10 Update 3. That's production grade and its free. Dennis ___ opens

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is SXCR Build 55?

Ron Halstead wrote: The subject says it all. Its been a month since the last one and I can't wait to get my printer working again. I don't know the release schedule, but I do know there have been two respins internally, which have presumably slowed down the release process that was already off

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How many years has GCC been evolving on the i86pc platform again? > > About 5-10 years longer than Sun Studio, which has only had i86pc > support for the last 10-15 years. Sure? Linux was a result of GCC becomming availavle to x86 FAIK. This was a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSola

Marc Glisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 6. The distribution should be compiled with the Sun > > Studio compilers (as > > a mandatory requirement for the project). No gcc > > junk. > > Or be compatible with both, like the solaris core? > (and let the distros choose which ABI they prefer) If the

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

Joerg Schilling writes: > Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > Don't forget all the things, that needed to be done: Adding all the > > > locales, testing, testing, verifying..., rewriting the documentation etc. > > > > Rewriting Qt in C so it doesn't suffer

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

>>Perhaps engineering resources that went into making OpenSolaris >>GCC-friendly would have been better spent porting SS10 to other >>platforms? Were I the manager that had the power to decide, I would >>have certainly pushed in that direction, not the other way around. >> >> I heavily doubt,

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: > > Don't forget all the things, that needed to be done: Adding all the > > locales, testing, testing, verifying..., rewriting the documentation etc. > > Rewriting Qt in C so it doesn't suffer from the lack of a standard C++ ABI..

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

And ON's gcc-shadow compilation does indeed uncover potential bugs, that might not have been detected otherwise. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

Martin Bochnig wrote: >Darren J Moffat wrote: > > >>We also now have a fantastic system for building the source with >>multiple compliers. Using multiple different compliers is a great way >>to find "interesting" bugs in the compiler and in the code you are >>building. >> >>Also the Studio comp

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

Darren J Moffat wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Perhaps engineering resources that went into making OpenSolaris >>> GCC-friendly would have been better spent porting SS10 to other >>> platforms? Were I the manager that had the power to decide, I would >>> have certainly pushed in that dire

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps engineering resources that went into making OpenSolaris GCC-friendly would have been better spent porting SS10 to other platforms? Were I the manager that had the power to decide, I would have certainly pushed in that direction, not the other way around. The rea

Re: [osol-discuss] Globle Zone information from Local Zone

prakash wrote: How to see Globle Zone information from Local Zone ? Any command to see the Globle zone name from local zone ? You can't. That is the whole point of the security model. What problem are you trying to solve ? -- Darren J Moffat ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

>There is. Few people are able to show the doggedly persistance that you've >shown in pursuing the goal of ksh93 integration. Don't put your light too >low, it wouldn't have happened without you. Stubbornness, if put to good >use, is a virtue that few people have. I would not necessarily class

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Refined OpenSolaris KDE proposal / Re: Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Roland Mainz wrote: Holger Berger wrote: On 1/17/07, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Need clarification please. Are John Sonnenschein and Roland Mainz co-owners of the KDE proposal now? I remember the day when it was considered 'impossible' to convince Sun to

[osol-discuss] Where is SXCR Build 55?

The subject says it all. Its been a month since the last one and I can't wait to get my printer working again. Ron Halstead This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

> Also, popularity doesn't say anything about quality How true this is! Too true, unfortunately. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

> Being able to compile with gcc means that someone can > much more readily port to another architectures, such > as PPC > or strongarm or ... Yes, understood, as written previously. That's what's possible thanks to GCC. The reality is, it did not yet happen. At the moment, we have exactly *zero

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Porting Virtualbox to Opensolaris X86

> Sparc, and x86 are no-brainers. Other platforms??? > > Why would Sun be so keen to pay people to port > Solaris (which has a price tag = FREE) and help HP, > IBM etc to sell their hardware? It would end up being > Sun paying to port the code. HP and IBM selling the > hardware, and HP and IBM get

[osol-discuss] Globle Zone information from Local Zone

How to see Globle Zone information from Local Zone ? Any command to see the Globle zone name from local zone ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org