RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread a b
As others have said, xmodmap or similar may be your friends. I have handled this *annoyance* for years with stty erase ^H or stty erase ^V^H interactively. Trust me, having grown up on DEC and Wyse terminals, I know how to set the [BACKSPACE] to do [DEL].

[osol-discuss] Building opensolaris debug bits

2007-05-26 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, I am trying to build a opensolaris kernel module. When I run make on usr/src/uts/intel/foo the non-debug bits get built. How do I build the debug bits (something along the lines of nbuild -D)? Yes, I know I can run the nightly. But, I do not what to rebuild the entire workspace.

Re: [osol-discuss] Building opensolaris debug bits

2007-05-26 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, I am trying to build a opensolaris kernel module. When I run make on usr/src/uts/intel/foo the non-debug bits get built. How do I build the debug bits (something along the lines of nbuild -D)? Yes, I know I can run the nightly. But, I do not what to rebuild the

Re: [osol-discuss] Building opensolaris debug bits

2007-05-26 Thread Manoj Joseph
Moinak Ghosh wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, I am trying to build a opensolaris kernel module. When I run make on usr/src/uts/intel/foo the non-debug bits get built. How do I build the debug bits (something along the lines of nbuild -D)? Yes, I know I can run the nightly. But, I do not what

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread Casper . Dik
As others have said, xmodmap or similar may be your friends. I have handled this *annoyance* for years with stty erase ^H or stty erase ^V^H interactively. I think this problem is more easily addressed for first time uses by making sure the default shell environment has command line

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-26 Thread Casper . Dik
Technical correctness should be thrown out in the name of popularity. I tend to think that technical correctness is a higher virtue than consensus, popularity, ergonomics, or any other darn thing, and anyone who disagrees is simply pandering. Nah, Pi can be three if you want :-) it would be

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-26 Thread Doug Scott
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Technical correctness should be thrown out in the name of popularity. I tend to think that technical correctness is a higher virtue than consensus, popularity, ergonomics, or any other darn thing, and anyone who disagrees is simply pandering. Sorry, when the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-26 Thread Doug Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do we have now in Solaris? Erase defaults to ^?? What is the default for GNOME Terminal in Solaris? (As seen when you hit set compatibility options to defaults) Backspace generates ASCII DEL Delete key generates Escape Sequence. So what's up

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Krister Joas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this shows that my preference is DEL but I assume the steps would be similar for people preferring BS. It shouldn't matter though because I hardly ever notice which mechanism is used. I guess that using DEL for erasing characters is the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the default for GNOME Terminal in Solaris? (As seen when you hit set compatibility options to defaults) Backspace generates ASCII DEL Delete key generates Escape Sequence. So what's up with that? In the default user environment, the backspace

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working

2007-05-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Technical correctness should be thrown out in the name of popularity. I tend to think that technical correctness is a higher virtue than consensus, popularity, ergonomics, or any other darn thing, and anyone who disagrees is simply pandering.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working

2007-05-26 Thread Doug Scott
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: But since everything nowadays is either about tolerance as the maximum virtue on the one hand, or (inconsistly enough with that!) about the absolute power of the majority on the other, as long as it's possible to choose a default, I suppose I should be content with

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: backspace key not working

2007-05-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
When you are on a PC keyboard, do you really use the delete key rather than the backspace? Given that some combinations of terminal emulators and rlogin or ssh and remote system behavior don't properly carry forward whatever one's local behavior is, I've dealt with things that seem to switch

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-26 Thread ken mays
I've been testing Belenix 0.6 for almost a week and I only a few things (right now) I'd like to see fixed: 1. Evince 0.4.0 - update to Evince 0.9.0 2. GIMP 2.2.10 - update to GIMP 2.3.16 3. KDE 3.5.1 - update to KDE 3.5.7 4. ksh93 features comparable to other ports The move to GIMP 2.3.16, KDE

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread a b
I think this problem is more easily addressed for first time uses by making sure the default shell environment has command line editing; AFAIK, they all allow both ^H and ^? to delete the character to the left of the cursor. Indeed, `tcsh` will handle both. However, this annoyance can rear

[osol-discuss] Culprit: OpenSolaris Jive

2007-05-26 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
In a separate thread, I described that the Chinese locale looks ugly. What I have observed is, basically, when I switched to the zh_CN locale, the English (western) fonts changed to monospace, disregard of whatever was set (either Helvetica or Arial) as the preference. See:

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-26 Thread Al Hopper
On Sat, 26 May 2007, ken mays wrote: I've been testing Belenix 0.6 for almost a week and I only a few things (right now) I'd like to see fixed: 1. Evince 0.4.0 - update to Evince 0.9.0 2. GIMP 2.2.10 - update to GIMP 2.3.16 3. KDE 3.5.1 - update to KDE 3.5.7 4. ksh93 features comparable to

[osol-discuss] Re: BASH as root shell

2007-05-26 Thread Gerard Nualla
I do admit that Solaris is a state of the art UNIX system, that is why I am making myself very comfortable.. For now, I am getting used to using SH as the root shell, :D Well, it really takes a lot of practice.. :D However, I do understand the risks of changing the root's default shell... :D

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-26 Thread Anil Gulecha
On 5/27/07, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2007, ken mays wrote: I've been testing Belenix 0.6 for almost a week and I only a few things (right now) I'd like to see fixed: 1. Evince 0.4.0 - update to Evince 0.9.0 2. GIMP 2.2.10 - update to GIMP 2.3.16 3. KDE 3.5.1 -

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-26 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Anil Gulecha wrote: On 5/27/07, *Al Hopper* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 May 2007, ken mays wrote: I've been testing Belenix 0.6 for almost a week and I only a few things (right now) I'd like to see fixed: 1. Evince 0.4.0 - update to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: BeleniX 0.6 Released

2007-05-26 Thread Moinak Ghosh
ken mays wrote: I've been testing Belenix 0.6 for almost a week and I only a few things (right now) I'd like to see fixed: 1. Evince 0.4.0 - update to Evince 0.9.0 2. GIMP 2.2.10 - update to GIMP 2.3.16 3. KDE 3.5.1 - update to KDE 3.5.7 4. ksh93 features comparable to other ports The move to