[osol-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] Reminder: 3 Key Lists for Website Upgrade]

2008-09-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Apologize for the wide distribution here, but this is good news. There will be a lot of communication going on over the next 6 months or so on these issues, and they are all related. If you are running a community or project or user group you should be on these three lists so you can be up to

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, such port makes sense and solves some of the issues (mostly GNU libc portability) but unfortunately creates new issues, which I'm sure, could be worked out and soon we should have more or less working first ISO available with support for this new

[osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Philip Torchinsky
Hi, Many people around are interested in honest comparison of Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris/OpenSolaris. I would like to make (or translate to Russian, if it exists in English) the paper about it. What actually are differences between those systems in terms of internal organization, security and

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Jan Friedel
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 02:18:44PM +0400, Philip Torchinsky wrote: Hi, Many people around are interested in honest comparison of Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris/OpenSolaris. I would like to make (or translate to Russian, if it exists in English) the paper about it. What actually are

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Philip Torchinsky
Jan, thank you very much! Max Brunning told me about this article, and I read it a year ago. Sorry for not mentioning this earlier. The article is nice, but too short. For example, there no information about ZFS, nothing related to file systems performance, etc. So, this article is a perfect

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Erast Benson
Right. And in addition to autotools, such port complicates further ON merges which will unavoidably lead to higher rate of errors/bugs. But because GNU/kFreeBSD exists, I do not see why GNU/kOpenSolaris can't be... On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 09:27 -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Stefan Varga
I can find data spread across many books and papers (like Solaris Internals for Solaris and some unknown to me yet for Linux and FreeBSD) but I believe there can be a paper with all the info gathered and analyzed already. Can you advise me one? this one ?

[osol-discuss] web interface not showing up

2008-09-19 Thread Johan Kragsterman
Hi! I´m pretty new to solaris and zfs, but I got relatively good knowledge of linux and very good knowledge of storage H/W, S/W and storage admin/arkitecture/planning. Anyway, now I´ve decided to give it a try with solaris, I installed os200805 on 64-bit intel, and got it up running without

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Philip Torchinsky wrote: Hi, Many people around are interested in honest comparison of Linux, FreeBSD and Solaris/OpenSolaris. I would like to make (or translate to Russian, if it exists in English) the paper about it. What actually are differences between those systems in terms of

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Philip Torchinsky
Jim, yes, you are right - it's what I usually do :) Let's hope to find more articles - Max is widely known as Solaris very deep diver; I need the view from other side as well... Thank you! Philip Jim Grisanzio: Philip Torchinsky wrote: Hi, Many people around are interested in honest

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Erast Benson
To me, this development is just yet another Debian architecture and sure, some in Debian community will like. It also connects to Nexenta in many ways - which is good for us. We can't stop such port from happening - so I think we should embrace it as a secondary lefty architecture. On Fri,

[osol-discuss] VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller not working

2008-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hi all, I just connected a 1000 GB drive to the built in SATA of my main board. Knoppix (from March 2008) has no problems reading the disk and returns 110 MBytes/s. On Knoppix I see a scsi disk /dev/sda. Solaris build 89 does not even see the controller. Any chance to get this to work?

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

2008-09-19 Thread Philip Torchinsky
Stefan, yes, this is close to what I am looking for, but I try to read this deeply. Thank you for the link, I lost it a year ago! If anybody has more links to point me on, please, let me know! Philip Stefan Varga: I can find data spread across many books and papers (like Solaris Internals

Re: [osol-discuss] How to debug a weird nis+ issue?

2008-09-19 Thread Peter Tribble
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Yue Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone I have a host installed with NIS+ client. There is a user named jsn in NIS server. His login shell is /bin/true. So he can not log on my host by default. Now I wanna grant his access so I added following line

[osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Bill Shannon
I just updated my OpenSolaris machine to snv_98. Sure is nice to see firefox 3.0. Unfortunately, it lost all of my bookmarks. I tried to restore them several ways but nothing worked. It seems that bookmarks are now only stored as json. I exported the bookmarks from another machine and

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Ian Collins
Bill Shannon wrote: I just updated my OpenSolaris machine to snv_98. Sure is nice to see firefox 3.0. Unfortunately, it lost all of my bookmarks. desktop-discuss is the best place to ask about FireFox problems. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Brent Jones
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Bill Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just updated my OpenSolaris machine to snv_98. Sure is nice to see firefox 3.0. Unfortunately, it lost all of my bookmarks. I tried to restore them several ways but nothing worked. It seems that bookmarks are now only

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Debian's main issue is that parts of Sun's libc are not open (mostly libc_i18n; they require all bits to be open). Having seen the issues kFreeBSD has had with using glibc with their kernel, I'm not sure if its work having a ksolaris port since

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Casadevall
The kFreeBSD port has had a lot of considerable issues with porting software. Remember, we'd need to port the ON tools such as the ZFS admin tools to glibc. http://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/kfreebsd-i386 They also haven't been able to get things like the wifi tools for FreeBSD

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread David Bartley
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Michael Casadevall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kFreeBSD port has had a lot of considerable issues with porting software. Remember, we'd need to port the ON tools such as the ZFS admin tools to glibc. I already have zfs and zpool binaries linked and working

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Casadevall
This poses an interesting question then. With this, we could, in theory dump the ON userland, and go pure GNU, more inline with the other Debian/Ubuntu ports. That being said, I still feel diversity is a strength, and is it still Solaris if we dump the userland (and with it, binary and script

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Per Lundberg
It is not Solaris, but it is GNU/kOpenSolaris. :-) If I might state my opinion, I believe diversity is a strength and choice is a good thing. If some people want to go for Solaris libc, let them do so; likewise for those who prefer an even more GNU-styled userland (with GNU libc being the

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't have a problem with two separate ports. Like for people who want Solaris based system for stability and ZFS, and a solaris based one. A nice and practical upshot of this is the possibility of a kopensolaris-amd64 port which has been a bit of

Re: [osol-discuss] GNU libc on OpenSolaris

2008-09-19 Thread Alex Ross
Back in '05 (years fly) we actually started from trying to port glibc and a bunch of core libraries outside glibc. We then relatively quickly, having spent about 3 weeks on it, realized the size and complexity of the exercise. At this time, as well as at any other time since then, we were

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Bill Shannon
Brent Jones wrote: Can you export your previous bookmarks into HTML format, then reimport them that way? No. I do the import, but they don't show up. As I said, I finally was able to import the bookmarks, but... 1. Why did they disappear to begin with? Anyone else seen this? Is it a bug?

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Bill Shannon wrote: 1. Why did they disappear to begin with? Anyone else seen this? This happened to me when I first installed FF3 separately from any upgrade to OpenSolaris. That was probably on to b91 or so. It wouldn't take any imports and it didn't find my previous profile. I figured it

[osol-discuss] YouTube: OpenSolaris at Intel Developer Forum SF

2008-09-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
More OpenSolaris/Intel videos. These things are starting to add up. The interviews are pretty good, actually, and so is the production. Nice and quick with lots of movement. We even get VP Bill out there ... * OpenSolaris and the Intel/Sun Collaboration Bill Franklin

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

2008-09-19 Thread Andras Barna
Firefox 3 in u97 is broken. You can download a contribute Firefox 3.0.1 on mozilla.org as a workaround. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0.1/contrib/solaris_tarball/ It will be fixed in u99.