[osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Hello, according to isaexec manual page, it traverses the list for an executable file in subdirectories of the original directory, named according to isalist output. When such a file is located, execve() is invoked with argv[] and envp[]. So to make OS autoselect appropriate binary for

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
However, in OpenSolaris I can see few deviations from this principle: /usr/bin/amd64 contains more binaries than /usr/bin/i86 and /usr/bin/pentium_pro+mmx together; for example, take a look at `ls' or `sdl-config': /usr/bin/amd64/ls is 64-bit binary /usr/bin/i86/ls is not present

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Julian Wiesener
Hi, i'm not sure if it is really necessary to have all the GNU tools preferred over Solaris tools. The most user expect GNU behaviour of tar (-z, -j), grep (-r), find (-iname, . as default path) and may be some other tools. But for ls, chmod and df (zfs) i assume the most GNU familiar users would

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:54:15 -0600 (CST) David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Wed, January 14, 2009 13:39, Fredrich Maney wrote: I agree with one caveat: the native fully supported and integrated Sun tools should be come first the default PATHs when shipped and modifying that value

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Brian Smith wrote: If a GNU utility is a proper superset of the Solaris version, would patches to replace the Solaris version with the GNU version be accepted? I would think so, but it would depend on

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:42:00 -0500 (EST) Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: If the Solaris commands become a superset of the Gnu ones, then that position becomes a fait accompli. Thus avoiding the entire question of whether or not that's the best - or even a desirable - goal. mike

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:04:03 -0800 Bart Smaalders bart.smaald...@sun.com wrote: Mike Meyer wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:42:00 -0500 (EST) Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: If the Solaris commands become a superset of the Gnu ones, then that position becomes a fait accompli.

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread David . Comay
[ I've moved opensolaris-discuss to the Bcc ] The utilities in question do not support Linux specific features. Why do you believe you will be able to feed back such enhancements for Solaris to the upstream? Is it your personal experience that this is the case or can you point to mail

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:03:12 +0100 Mika Borner opensola...@bluewin.ch wrote: We should not forget that Apple welcomes users with a BSD userland. Many developers also use Mac OS X as their preferred platform. And almost everybody seems quite happy with it... This isn't quite true. Yes, OSX is

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
For as rare as such an event could be, I was affected by this: more than once GNU tar couldn't extract it's own files while fortunately pax could. I had to back up some big directories with GNU tar on Solaris 10 and sometimes it happened that tar exited with exit status 0 doing nothing. Archives

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Enrico Maria Crisostomo wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Brian Smith wrote: If a GNU utility is a proper superset of the Solaris version, would patches

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Enrico Maria Crisostomo
Joerg, you're right, I think I copied from an old post of mine without double checking, sorry for it. By the way, I was just saying that I remember I was hit by that issue little more than a years ago: I began to correlate things when you cited larger sparse files and multivolumes. By the way,

Re: [osol-discuss] Thoughts/problems with install on MacPro with SXCE-105

2009-02-09 Thread John Kaitschuck
Have you tried an upgrade? That would be one way to see if the problem is with the b105 code base or with the installer. Yes, I did get it upgraded to B105, so it looks like an installer issue to me. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

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Re: [osol-discuss] osol-0906-106a available

2009-02-09 Thread NAKAJI Hiroyuki
In c2315a540902072109t74f0c0ej3229a622ad...@mail.gmail.com Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:21 AM, NAKAJI Hiroyuki nak...@heimat.jp wrote: In 4cb4ba740902031244s18d61999ye748345fce315...@mail.gmail.com Al Hopper a...@logical-approach.com wrote:

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
Hi, i'm not sure if it is really necessary to have all the GNU tools preferred over Solaris tools. The most user expect GNU behaviour of tar (-z, -j), grep (-r), find (-iname, . as default path) and may be some other tools. But for ls, chmod and df (zfs) i assume the most GNU familiar users

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 16:05, casper@sun.com píše: However, in OpenSolaris I can see few deviations from this principle: /usr/bin/amd64 contains more binaries than /usr/bin/i86 and /usr/bin/pentium_pro+mmx together; for example, take a look at `ls' or `sdl-config':

Re: [osol-discuss] [storage-discuss] NDMPCOPY Test Tool and NDMP Protocol Test Suite Released

2009-02-09 Thread Erast Benson
Great! uploaded to Nexenta APT now, for NCP2 users just do: # apt-get install ndmpcopy On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 17:46 -0800, Ben Rockwood wrote: Vilas Deshpande, I love you!!! Thank you! I've been needing this badly! benr. ___ storage-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Hello, CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for using isa directories. SDL case is absolutely unclear: if one knows which

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
AFAIK, when we first did 64-bit SPARC, Kenbus was a very important benchmark; it suffered when ls needed to use isaexec. My memory could be failing, though. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Casper . Dik
CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for using isa directories. In SPARC, we can really get rid of much of the isaexec

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Alex, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 18:21, Alexander Vlasov píše: Hello, CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). I would say there are many systems 32-bit only (and there is some probability even

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi Casper, V po, 09. 02. 2009 v 18:23, casper@sun.com píše: AFAIK, when we first did 64-bit SPARC, Kenbus was a very important benchmark; it suffered when ls needed to use isaexec. My memory could be failing, though. I cannot argue for or against, my memory is shorter :-) Best

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
casper@sun.com wrote: CR 6248065 is quite interesting. However, some reasons from 2005 aren't much applicable nowadays (system is more-or-less 64-bit-proof now). And well, maybe it's not about optimization, it's more about policy for using isa directories. In SPARC, we can really

Re: [osol-discuss] isaexec?

2009-02-09 Thread Bart Smaalders
I would say there are many systems 32-bit only (and there is some probability even 32-bit SPARC kernel will return). This is absolutely not the case. - Bart -- Bart Smaalders Solaris Kernel Performance ba...@cyber.eng.sun.com http://blogs.sun.com/barts You will