Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] Memory leak somewhere, maybe in libc (libc_hwcap2.so.1 / SXCE b105 x64) ?

2009-02-12 Thread Brian Nitz
On 02/12/09 03:47, Michael Schuster wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: I mean, ok: I got used to it, that small daemons like the network-auto-magic manager can consume 86MB. Also, that small almost useless little Gnome-applets can consume hundreds of MB's (wnck-applet 104MB, clock-applet 80MB, mixer-

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Nitz
Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > Brian Nitz wrote: > >> A few things happened to make crashes more common in recent GNOME builds: >> >> 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so >> some subtle bugs became less subtle. >>

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Nitz
> > I'm focused on testing myself, so understand both view points. Yes there was also quite a debate over this in the GNOME community. > > My system is still crashing after applying the workarounds. > Is there a way to disable bug buddy/coreing on ASSERT on > a live system? U

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Nitz
Mario Goebbels wrote: >> 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so >> some subtle bugs became less subtle. >> > > Can/Will this be disabled in the JDS builds? > > -mg > Yes core on ASSERT should be disabled before any product release. The intention is to un

Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] How to get an old build?

2008-03-19 Thread Brian Nitz
A few things happened to make crashes more common in recent GNOME builds: 1) The GNOME community enabled coreing on ASSERTs in default builds, so some subtle bugs became less subtle. 2) Coring on ASSERT causes some post install scripts to fail on some hardware due to a file access race conditi

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Nitz
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default >> user shell) >> > > What do you understand by "*system* shell"? > > Jörg > > It's the shell /usr/sh points to. This satisfies backward compat

Re: [osol-discuss] A job for DTrace?

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Nitz
Have you tried the iosnoop demo in /usr/demo/dtrace? Something like this might be close to what you're looking for: dtrace -s /usr/demo/dtrace/iosnoop.d | grep W Orvar Korvar wrote: > Sometimes I would like to know which files have been altered, for instance > when installing programs (then I

Re: [osol-discuss] stdout : no space

2007-07-04 Thread Brian Nitz
Thomas may have chosen the installer's defaults. Unfortunately, the installer defaults to a root slice with just barely enough space to install the default package cluster plus a small percentage of overhead and a huge /export/home partition. This might make sense for huge servers where root mi

Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro

2007-05-31 Thread Brian Nitz
Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/31/07, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Before we go too far down the track of creating a "so called" reference binary distribution of OpenSolaris I think we need to first clearly for the whole community document exactly what problem we are trying to solve. F

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [ogb-discuss] Project Proposal - (what is/was Indiana)

2007-05-31 Thread Brian Nitz
This is a case (as I believe many real world cases will be) where it isn't clear that the proposed project fits entirely within an existing community. How do we prevent bugs in governance, bugs in the community organization, and misunderstanding by outsiders (and insiders) from preventing tec

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-24 Thread Brian Nitz
Joe Little wrote: On 5/20/07, a b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One picks Linux "as the best choice" only if one doesn't know what one is doing. It is as simple as that. > > > > This kind of thing is coming across more and more as irrational hatred. > Take it elsewhere, it's not helpful.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-22 Thread Brian Nitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point. So I hope Indiana is more like ubuntu and OSX in that: - It doesn't allow root login by default. Pretty much the case for Solaris (ignoring console logins) - It installs sudo by default. It has a similar tool which can do this. Yes, of c

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-22 Thread Brian Nitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that you don't want grep to ignore pipes and I know about the find workaround, but I still think the fact that two pipes exist by default in /etc is a bug: # ls -ld /etc/*pipe* prw--- 1 root root 0 May 22 14:17 /etc/initpipe prw--- 1 r

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-22 Thread Brian Nitz
patibility with something which relies on those pipes being in /etc. I haven't yet encountered any Linux distributions which don't have examples of bad design which would be even more difficult to fix without breaking something. Joerg Schilling wrote: Brian Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: And that would break... what, exactly?

2007-05-22 Thread Brian Nitz
Depending on what his find did, Chris may have encountered a bug. Find / or /etc -exec grep foo {} \; can hang on some versions of Solaris because it encounters a named pipe and gets stuck grepping the pipe forever. This was one of my top 10 pet peeves when moving back to Solaris from gnu/li

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris Backup Server

2007-05-18 Thread Brian Nitz
It's not a bootable image backup, but for media it works well to run cygwin on the windows P.C. and use its rsync over ssh to synchronize my 20Gig+ photo directories with a ZFS filesystem on the Solaris box. I wouldn't necessarily recommend doing this over an 11Mbps wifi connection, but it doe

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: out of memory problem

2007-05-18 Thread Brian Nitz
Unless you're using quotas or some other opensolaris feature to limit individual process heap space, the easiest way to increase the heap space available to a process is to either increase the amount of physical memory or enlarge the swap file. For example: mkfile 2000m /new_swap {I'll ta

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-17 Thread Brian Nitz
I don't think that's necessarily true for non-developer users. What if your global zone ran the desktop, you're browsing the web, download a cool program or interesting content file. Wouldn't it be convenient if an agent in that global zone found an appropriate (and secure) zone/container/vm

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: PCMCIA SCSI and SCSI tape no /dev/rmt device

2007-04-26 Thread Brian Nitz
> Brian Nitz wrote: > > I haven't had any luck yet, but I really appreciate > the suggestions. My comments are inline: > > > > > >> Firstly, does it show up in the output of > >> > >> > >> # cfgadm -lav > > > > N

Re: [osol-discuss] Noob needs some help with wireless network adaptor

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Nitz
I don't know about that specific WiFi adapter, but you're more likely to have support for Wifi with recent Solaris Nevada builds rather than Solaris 10. Unless you intend to buy support or need to something specific to Solaris 10, I'd recommend Solaris Express Developer Edition: http://develo

[osol-discuss] X86 equivalent of probe-scsi-all?

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Nitz
I'm troubleshooting a problem with recognition of an external SCSI tape drive through a KME PCMCIA card bus. I've found references to the openboot probe-scsi-all command but since X86 hardware typically lacks openboot firmware, what is the equivalent of probe-scsi-all on Solaris X86? This m

Re: [osol-discuss] E_SEC_SHELL_WARN ( running lint )

2007-04-02 Thread Brian Nitz
Isn't the 21st century way of starting a service to use SMF in OpenSolaris? This website walks through a specific example with openldap: http://lowks.inigo-tech.com/blog/coreblogentry.2007-03-23.0477221442 Once you have the manifest set up, you can use interface libraries in libscf such as smf_

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Input Method Project

2007-03-30 Thread Brian Nitz
Good idea, I was wondering whether there was any interest in bringing back an IM switcher. I hope you'll work closely with the X and desktop projects. Noah yan wrote: +1 On 3/30/07, Yong Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to propose a project about Input Method for OpenSolaris. The sc

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Brian Nitz
Gnome had an applet (gimlet?) which sounds exactly like the KDE KB switcher you're describing, unfortunately it relied on a lobrary (xklavier) which depended on private X.org internals. Since not everyone uses X.org and even those who do don't all use the same version, the fact that it worked w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-27 Thread Brian Nitz
Shawn Walker wrote: On 26/03/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please, no entrenched GNOME or gcc. > > What does that mean? It means please do not take it down the Nexenta road of using gcc built packages and fat unstable GNOME. It "fat unstable GNOME" -- you rea

Re: [osol-discuss] Election Voting Opens Mon Mar 12th (00:00 hrs)

2007-03-23 Thread Brian Nitz
You might want to look at the way the GNOME community handles elections. I thought that was pretty straightforward. Dennis Clarke wrote: I'll try not to muddle things further, but the "Review your contributor grants" section of the poll instructions and relevant sections of the draft constitut

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-23 Thread Brian Nitz
Shawn Walker wrote: Your manpath probably isn't set correctly. The default manpath for Solaris does *not* include all of the man directories for all installed software; it is up to you set it appropriately. Setting your manpath to include /usr/sfw/man, /opt/SUNWspro/man, etc. would probably all

Re: [osol-discuss] Election Voting Opens Mon Mar 12th (00:00 hrs)

2007-03-23 Thread Brian Nitz
I'll try not to muddle things further, but the "Review your contributor grants" section of the poll instructions and relevant sections of the draft constitution could be made more specific to this election: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/website/poll_instructions In simple terms, if you ar

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris on Intel's Classmate PC?

2007-03-23 Thread Brian Nitz
I've been long interested in reducing Solaris's footprint. This wasn't possible with the monolithic "Solaris" distribution, just as it isn't possible to install RHEL4 onto a mobile phone. But Nexenta and Belenix both have a smaller footprint than Sun's server focused distribution and of you w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: User Mode Driver

2007-03-05 Thread Brian Nitz
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI? Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted in a bunch of compl

Re: [osol-discuss] RE: [desktop-discuss] Project Proposal :: JDS

2006-07-18 Thread Brian Nitz
Gary A. Ross wrote: I absolutely agree. Innovation at the right areas is critical. Resources are tight everywhere, and trying to figure out where the biggest "bang for the buck" is difficult at best. But, where does JDS really differ from the other Graphic Environments out there? JDS contribut

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [desktop-discuss] Project Proposal :: JDS

2006-07-18 Thread Brian Nitz
My only misgiving about Glynn's proposal to promote the desktop to a project was the name of this project. A significant proportion of the emails on the Sun Java Desktop Support forums are questions about Java (often on Microsoft Windows!) which have nothing to do with the Sun Java(tm) Desktop

Re: [osol-discuss] RE: [desktop-discuss] Project Proposal :: JDS

2006-07-14 Thread Brian Nitz
The problem with making GNOME the project is that it is just one of many projects which must come together in order to create a unified opensolaris desktop. I think Glynn's idea could really help connect opensolaris desktop users and developers with maintainers of the components, but I wonder

Re: [osol-discuss] Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86

2006-05-30 Thread Brian Nitz
Yes you could run the linux Acrobat binary in Brandz, but I'd advocate using evince instead. It's opensource and from my experience, it works better than acroread. I brought up a pdf from my ISP the other day, it looked O.K. in acroread (sparc) but printed as all "p"s. Evince displayed it an

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Idea for Sysadmin community for OpenSolaris

2006-01-06 Thread Brian Nitz
I run into this same issue, our specialties don't always map to the same categories selected when the forums were created, it has to be an even bigger problem outside sun where sysadmins of small organizations are forced to be a "Jack of all trades." Does anyone know of any forum engine which

Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop? // Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-19 Thread Brian Nitz
Stefan Teleman wrote: On 12/19/05, Brian Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure there are other areas where GNOME has an advantage over KDE. For example PDF rendering. I hope Opensolaris distributions based on KDE, Looking glass and other open source desktops becom

Re: OpenSolairis a choice for the government desktop? // Re: [osol-discuss] KDE, GNOME, etc.

2005-12-19 Thread Brian Nitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Felix Schulte wrote: Having two desktops does not make sense for the customers - and KDE is the primary government desktop here. Support for KDE will be a requirement for further contracts as far as I can see from my POV. The European governments are looking into fu

Re: [osol-discuss] Is distribution neutral application compatibility feasible?

2005-12-02 Thread Brian Nitz
Erast Benson wrote: Forget about package format. :-) M$ Windows do not have any embedded package managers at all. Answer on your question is simple: Third party application developer *must* take care of the issue. i.e. He must provide solution which will work on any OpenSolaris-based distro (or o

Re: [osol-discuss] Is distribution neutral application compatibility feasible?

2005-12-01 Thread Brian Nitz
st Benson wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:24 -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Brian Nitz wrote: I have a Nexenta elatte "gnusolaris" partition alongside my NV_27a with a GNOME 2.12 JDS build. Nexenta is based on the same kernel code and also contains a GNOME 2.12 desktop. Unf

[osol-discuss] Is distribution neutral application compatibility feasible?

2005-11-30 Thread Brian Nitz
I have a Nexenta elatte "gnusolaris" partition alongside my NV_27a with a GNOME 2.12 JDS build. Nexenta is based on the same kernel code and also contains a GNOME 2.12 desktop. Unfortunately the binaries for the gnusolaris versions of these applications aren't easily interchangable with the b

[osol-discuss] Re: man weirdness

2005-09-21 Thread Brian Nitz
Here are a couple of things to look for: Is SUNWman installed? (pkginfo SUNWman) If no then Did the install complete? Is there a /var/sadm/system/data/packages_to_be_added file? If so, is SUNWman in this file? Did you choose to install documentation and then skip documentation when it asked