[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the bas

2006-03-20 Thread J. Estes
> You're not forced to use them for your own software; > put your libraries in /usr/local/lib or /opt/xxx and link > with that. > > - Bart I normaly do exactly that. But that still leaves the user with 481 MB of bloat in /usr/sfw , most of which is not required by the core O/S. This does not

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O/

2006-03-20 Thread J. Estes
> You can install whatever bits you want for your > applications to use; you need only configure your > apps to link against your versions of those libraries. > > Get used to sedimentation; Solaris over time will > contain more and more pieces who originate outside of Sun > Microsystems, Inc. I

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O

2006-03-20 Thread J. Estes
> Where do you draw the line between part of the OS and > a third party library? What are sendmail, bind, Xorg, libX11? A > very large amount of Solaris has origins outside Sun - whether > that be from BSD, AT&T, or one of the many open source projects > included. > > -- > -Alan Coopersmith

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O/

2006-03-20 Thread J. Estes
> The reason they are required is that pkgadd natively > supports installing software via http: and https: with the "-d > device" option. You can download and install signed > packages over the web. This is part of the functionality > required by the existing Solaris 10 "WAN boot" feature. > >

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O/S...

2006-03-19 Thread J. Estes
I would have them be completely divorced from the core O/S, such that core utilities like pkgadd/pkgrm are not dependent on 3rd party software, such as libopenssl.so, nor libgcc_s.so. Both /opt/sfw _and_ /usr/sfw should be configurable to be not installed at all, if the person installing it so

[osol-discuss] Proposal to remove /usr/sfw and its dependencies from the base O/S...

2006-03-18 Thread J. Estes
I have been using Sun Solaris (2.5.1 up to 8) without having the core O/S dependent on /usr/sfw software. It is a detraction that should be removed, or at least the user should be allowed to choose to completely preclude its installation. This is especially true of the dependencies on pkgadd/p