Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 Update 4 questions

2007-07-06 Thread Steve Stallion
On 7/6/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those aren't there yet as the new installer has not been adopted yet. > It's safe to say those are a future release. > > Plus, since I know SPARC support isn't ready, I know Sun wouldn't do that :) Does anyone know if Live Update will support

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java

2007-05-25 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/25/07, Anne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The sad thing about this is that I still cannot get the backspace working on the Java environment. UGH what a major pain. And the DEL key acts the same way. The ONLY thing that works for backspace is continually hitting "CTRL+H" The Java interface is s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: And that would break... what, exactly? (Re: Sun to make Solaris more

2007-05-21 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/21/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You are missing something very significant. There are times when doing so, might give you a significant competitive advantage. Whether that is time to market, efficiency gains, or some other advantage, there are many cases that make strong busine

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-18 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/18/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why don't we first focus on those applications that don't exist in Solaris currently? Also, in parallel, we should work on an updated packaging format. Whoa... slow down Tiger. SVR4 is by far a more complete and cohesive packaging format than

Re: [osol-discuss] Inexpensive/quiet server hardware for running OpenSolaris.

2007-05-18 Thread Steve Stallion
Chenboro and Supermicro are both good vendors for cases (rackmountable and low profile) Sorry for the typo, that should have read: Chenbro http://www.chenbro.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Inexpensive/quiet server hardware for running OpenSolaris.

2007-05-18 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/18/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.tyan.com/product_board_detail.aspx?pid=181 Questions: Is this unit 64 bit? Assuming you put in a 64bit processor, yes. This is a socket 479 motherboard, so you will need to look at mobile cpu's. I would suggest a lowend core 2 du

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-17 Thread Steve Stallion
f) leave Solaris precisely how it is, and add additional personalities (ie: /usr/gnu) to support disparate runtimes with sensible aliases for new users. On 5/17/07, Doug Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I agree with much of your post. Though rather than using the >>

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Stallion
On 5/16/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I am not terribly worried about GNU/Linux users who have a > hard time moving over to Solaris. I find the goal to be laughable and > I would far more upset if my OS of choice was diluted to support a > marketing initiative. How exa

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Stallion
I have perhaps a more general question. Why not fully flesh out the /usr/gnu personality and just provide users with either a default .profile/.cshrc (or *gasp* new user documentation) rather than wreaking havoc on 10+ years of compatibility? Why not provide default aliases for these new users a

Re: [osol-discuss] Inexpensive/quiet server hardware for running OpenSolaris.

2007-05-15 Thread Steve Stallion
I have a network attached tape device I built using this board from Tyan. It is a FlexATX so its quite small (only marginally larger than a mini-itx) and is dead silent (under 17db) in full operation and makes use of the newer core 2 chipset (vt-x instruction support) so vmware would run at near n

Re: [osol-discuss] unable to bring up nfs server on solaris 10

2007-05-15 Thread Steve Stallion
Have you tried issuing 'svcadm enable -r nfs/server' ? There may be a dependency lurking somewhere you could have missed. On 5/15/07, jason jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: solaris 10 11/06 on SUN V240 # cat /etc/dfs/dfstab share -F nfs -o ro,anon=0 /jumpstart #svcadm enable svc:/network/nfs/se

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Which reason will cause thi error?

2007-05-14 Thread Steve Stallion
Serves me right for not actually reading the original email... What flags are you passing to modload... -p ? On 5/14/07, Steve Stallion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It sounds like you are having runtime lookup issues. If you are compiling something by hand, make sure that you are passin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Which reason will cause thi error?

2007-05-14 Thread Steve Stallion
It sounds like you are having runtime lookup issues. If you are compiling something by hand, make sure that you are passing a -R flag with the library paths you wish to link to at runtime. Do *not*, I repeat, do *not* use LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Hint: This should look a lot like your -L paths. On 5/14

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like

2007-05-11 Thread Steve Stallion
Well it didnt take long for this to escalate to into an all out flame. Remember Gentlemen, pinkies up! On 5/11/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/11/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not at all, but Sun execs have a long history of > > telling the press long > > before

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Stallion
Sorry about that, Im a bit guilty of using /usr/sfw as shorthand for the consolodation - i'll qualify next time :)On 10/11/06, Darren J Moffat < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:David Kleiner wrote:> Steve,>> What's your take on the metadata (versions, pkg dependencies, stable vs. -devel, that sort of stuf

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Stallion
All of this certainly up for discussion. Ive registered a channel on irc.freenode.net named #opensolaris-ports so we can discuss this outside of the discuss list for now. Over the next couple of days, I'll get a ports list setup on opensolaris.org.This goes for anyone else who is interested, hop o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-10 Thread Steve Stallion
Danek,Thats great to hear. What else needs to happen make this project official?SteveOn 10/10/06, Danek Duvall < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 07:28:19AM -0500, Steve Stallion wrote: > I most definitely agree - however, I would like to see the project get an> actual

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-10 Thread Steve Stallion
Erast,I am more than willing to develop and support this project, however it will depend on the rest of the community to make use of it. I think that would be a good goal to have ultimately. I have had a couple of ideas to support specific dist revisions of the ports repository, which would make of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-10 Thread Steve Stallion
Frank,I most definitely agree - however, I would like to see the project get an actual start before these discussions commence. To be perfectly honest, Im feeling a little guilty for all the traffic I have caused on the -discuss list the last few days ;) As a side note: I have already done much of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-09 Thread Steve Stallion
), vs. unstable (unsupported). Cheers! SteveOn 10/9/06, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve Stallion wrote:> I completely agree. It does make the dependency list much bigger but> there are a couple of options (at least as I see it):>> 1)  /usr/sfw is moved into the ports

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-09 Thread Steve Stallion
Agreed. Build recipies are cheap to host, Sun or genunix or wherever would have the master repository, but it would be very easy to build a mirror system with so little space requirements.Admittedly, I would be thrilled to see the Companion folks make use of this once we are ready. Just as Dennis m

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-09 Thread Steve Stallion
I completely agree. It does make the dependency list much bigger but there are a couple of options (at least as I see it):1)  /usr/sfw is moved into the ports collection (eventually of course), and we all live in a big happy world. 2) We build in alternate dependencies on /usr/sfw package in the ev

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: OpenSolaris Ports System

2006-10-09 Thread Steve Stallion
Dave,This may be ignorance on my part, but AFAIK, there are no TCL bindings to sun api's. In my experience, more developers (including myself) are more proficient in C than TCL. While TCL is in /usr/sfw, I would like to see the ports system available to any solaris user whether or not they have the