[osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-25 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello, It is good to see that there will be clean OpenSolaris distribution with kernel and graphical desktop without any other software, but there some big problems about which is need to discuss. Why not to use Gentoo model to allow people to adjust custom installation disk? As we see Ubuntu is

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-25 Thread Girts Zeltins
As we see Gentoo Hardware Requirements for Minimal CD is 486 processor and 64Mb RAM. Such requirements must be for Solaris too! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-25 Thread Lukas Oboril
Hi, 486 processor with 64mb is toaster. If you would to use solaris/opensolaris you'll need to buy personal computer. best regards luc On 7/25/07, Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As we see Gentoo Hardware Requirements for Minimal CD is 486 processor and > 64Mb RAM. > Such requiremen

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-25 Thread Ché Kristo
And a 486 with 64 MB is not a personal computer? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-25 Thread Ché Kristo
Your questions/suggestions are probably best targeted directly at Indiana Discussions: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=197 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolari

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Gueven Bay
> The fundamental difference though is that you aren't doing an install of > something like the latest full Fedora distribution and expecting to > se it as a desktop with all the latest eye candy. Yup, you are right. Mostly there are tiny distros for these kinds of machines. > I agree with yo

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Gueven Bay
> hi, > > yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for > Solaris. :) 486 > _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. Hi xlucas, In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. Let me explain: Do you know these "machines" http://www.soekris.com ? The hackers and tinkerers I know love

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Darren J Moffat
Gueven Bay wrote: >> hi, >> >> yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for >> Solaris. :) 486 >> _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. > > Hi xlucas, > > In my opinion your attitude regarding OpSol is wrong. > > Let me explain: Do you know these "machines" http://www.soekris.com ? > Th

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 07:43 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I > > think soekris boards > > is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is > > very good hardware > > for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is > > for BSD like > > distros or s

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread UNIX admin
> sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I > think soekris boards > is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is > very good hardware > for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is > for BSD like > distros or some linux distros. I disagree, and vehemently at that. The only qu

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Lukas Oboril
hi, yes, 486 with 64mb is not a personal computer for Solaris. :) 486 _was_ a personal computer 15 years ago. On 7/26/07, Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And a 486 with 64 MB is not a personal computer? > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread UNIX admin
> 486 processor with 64mb is toaster. If you would to > use > solaris/opensolaris you'll need to buy personal > computer. Hmmm, perhaps you should look around http://opensolaris.org/, you'll find there's a discussion list called "appliances", and Solaris running on an appliance is a worthy goal

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-26 Thread Lukas Oboril
Hi Gueven sorry i forgot that exists embeded platform :) I think soekris boards is not playground for Opensolaris. Soekris board is very good hardware for routers, wi-fi ap etc... but this playground is for BSD like distros or some linux distros. I answered to Girts post and i'm absolutely sure a

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on the > Solaris kernel? > Chorus? ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported to the MIPS processor. Both product lines were killed shortly thereafter, however ChorusOS has been open

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Tao Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Solaris is no monolithic OS. > > > > It starts with a small init/loader that pulls in modules on demand. > > > > The modules however do all run in the same HW context. > > > > This is different in multi-context OS. > > > > Does "HW context" here mean "addr

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels. > > > > Solaris _is_ a microkernel architecture and not a monolith. > > Solaris does however run al the code in a single kernel context. > > > Could you please explain how you see Solaris's k

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
On 7/27/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an approximation of SVR4 > e.g. > > > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems to me that > > > Chorus/MiX would have been on a level

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Microkernel design philosophy is resurrecting itself in surprising places. > > Take a look at the work the Linux folk are doing to implement ZFS in > > userspace. > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Tao Chen
On 7/27/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels. > > > > > > Solaris _is_ a microkernel architecture and not a monolith. > > > Solaris does however run al the code in a single kern

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an approximation of SVR4 e.g. > > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems to me that > > Chorus/MiX would have been on a level of coolness approximating that > > of HURD, Apollo Domain/OS (had i

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> Sometimes I wonder that nobody is trying to re-create > Chorus/MiX > (SVR4 personality multi-server implementation on top > of Chorus microkernel) > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an > approximation of SVR4 e.g. > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems > to me that >

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
On 7/27/07, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on > > the > > > Solaris kernel? > > > Chorus? > > > > ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also > > acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported > > to the MIPS pro

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> > At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on > the > > Solaris kernel? > > Chorus? > > ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also > acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported > to the MIPS processor. > > Both product lines were killed shortly thereafter, > however Ch

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-08-02 Thread john g4lt
No. If they killed my sparc32 machines, you have to deal with the loss of your 486es as well. If there is to be legacy support in opensolaris, the first priority MUST be sparc32, given that it was the last to fall (sparc32 was only fully pulled as of sol10). On 7/25/07, Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PRO