Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-20 Thread Tim Scanlon
I really don't think there will be any need to fork. If anything, people moving around who're still committed to the technology is a very good thing. OpenSolaris is healthy. The code is healthy too. And so is the rather nice CDDL, which I prefer over GNU's hideous template stamp. They're

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-18 Thread James Mansion
Roger Bisson wrote: James, All OS platforms benefit from the network effects of wide usage. I agree, but 'free as in beer' helps here more than 'free as in source'. To the average developer, Solaris (which, in a closed model, you would have to pay for) I think you are confusing 'free

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-16 Thread bsd
Don't apologize if you feel or think a certain way. Just because most on here believe you can only have an opinion that matches theirs, doesn't mean you can't offer up your own. I've said it before, that I personally don't know why Oracle would spend millions developing Solaris 10 and spend

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-16 Thread Peter Tribble
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:26 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote: I've said it before, that I personally don't know why Oracle would spend millions developing Solaris 10 and spend millions developing OpenSolaris when OpenSolaris isn't a revenue generator.  I don't buy into it's the

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-16 Thread Roger Bisson
I've said it before, that I personally don't know why Oracle would spend millions developing Solaris 10 and spend millions developing OpenSolaris when OpenSolaris isn't a revenue generator. I don't buy into it's the development model line either. Funny that I never heard it was the

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-16 Thread James Mansion
Roger Bisson wrote: Personally, I am of the view that Sun's original decision to release Solaris in the form of OpenSolaris was absolutely the right decision to ensure Solaris' maintenance and growth as a platform by making it available to developers and technicians (thereby encouraging its

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-16 Thread Roger Bisson
James, Personally, I am of the view that Sun's original decision to release Solaris in the form of OpenSolaris was absolutely the right decision to ensure Solaris' maintenance and growth as a platform by making it available to developers and technicians (thereby encouraging its application

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-15 Thread Edward Martinez
aggg, I  don't like  the thought of Garrett D'Amore and ZFS co- creator Bill Moore deflecting to Nexenta,other  opensoalris originators may follow. IMO    nexenta by hiring some former opensolaris devs. is preparing themselves to continue developing the opensolaris kernel on their own

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Edward Martinez wrote: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/174797,ellison-scorns-schwartzs-leadership-of-sun.aspx I have to wonder which projects are not commercialiable and seen as science projects and will be ignored? I don't know which ones he's speaking of specifically, but I'd have to guess

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Edward Martinez wrote: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/174797,ellison-scorns-sc hwartzs-leadership-of-sun.aspx I have to wonder which projects are not commercialiable and seen as science projects and will be ignored? I don't know which ones he's speaking of specifically, but I'd have

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-15 Thread john kroll
What cyber university/professional training class has it on something other than Sun/Oracle hardware ? All I meant earlier is that sometimes your current job is better than starting over. Of course I never had standing offers to move. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-15 Thread Edward Martinez
I was wondering with D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes to take drastic measures, if they are willing and have the resources, can something be organized with nexenta to become the fork? I want to apologize for this thread and for any displease it might of caused, i

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread Edward Martinez
On 12 May 2010, at 07:34, Edward Martinez wrote: Are you saying that nexenta contribute code to the opensolaris project? if they do, then i should not really be concern about BIll Moore and Garrett D'Amore joining Nexenta then. their work will still be within the opensolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] aggg, I don't like the thought of Garrett D'Amore and ZFS co- creator Bill Moore deflecting to Nexenta,other opensoalris originators may follow. IMOnexenta by hiring some former opensolaris devs. is preparing themselves to continue developing the opensolaris kernel on their

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread john kroll
On the business side of this its still a senior member getting the bump for a possible cheaper younger job fill. Which is sad to me being of age for the ax. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On the business side of this; its still a senior member getting the bump for a possible cheaper younger job fill. Which is sad to me being of age for the ax. You're making an assumption that is not supported by evidence I'm aware of. If there are two parties to a relationship, and the

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread Anil Gulecha
aggg, I  don't like  the thought of Garrett D'Amore and ZFS co- creator Bill Moore deflecting to Nexenta,other  opensoalris originators may follow. IMO    nexenta by hiring some former opensolaris devs. is preparing themselves to continue developing the opensolaris kernel on their own

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-14 Thread Ghee Teo
On 05/14/10 12:47 PM, john kroll wrote: On the business side of this its still a senior member getting the bump for a possible cheaper younger job fill. Which is sad to me being of age for the ax. evidence of your claim? ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-12 Thread Edward Martinez
On 11 May 2010, at 17:55, Edward Martinez wrote: I'm sorry, with these kind if news i get concern and once i get concern lot of ideas start flowing in my head on how i can help out. Concerned about what? That somebody who was actively working on OpenSolaris is now going to

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-12 Thread Calum Benson
On 12 May 2010, at 07:34, Edward Martinez wrote: Are you saying that nexenta contribute code to the opensolaris project? if they do, then i should not really be concern about BIll Moore and Garrett D'Amore joining Nexenta then. their work will still be within the opensolaris

[osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Edward Martinez
I was wondering with D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes to take drastic measures, if they are willing and have the resources, can something be organized with nexenta to become the fork? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Brian Cameron
I am getting repetitive motion disorder just deleting all of the emails in this thread. Really, you are hurting me. Isn't there something more worthwhile that we can talk about? Can we create a separate forum for OpenSolaris armchair speculators to blab away at each other without bothering

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes  to take  drastic measures,  if they are willing and have the resources, can something  be organized with nexenta to become the fork? Troll.

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Edward Martinez
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes  to take  drastic measures,  if they are willing and have the resources, can something  be organized with nexenta to become the fork?

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Concerns are OK, but not the drastic moves you proposed... And combining those, is not a good thing... Matthias You (Edward Martinez) wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Edward Martinez
Concerns are OK, but not the drastic moves you proposed... And combining those, is not a good thing... Matthias ward Martinez) wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
can nexenta become the fork? Just my opinion: 1. It cannot. Nexenta is mostly Ubuntu with OpenSolaris kernel. Nexenta engineers do not contribute (much) to OpenSolaris codebase. They are Oracle (Sun) engineers who do. 2. The fork is not needed. OpenSolaris is actively developed at Oracle and

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Calum Benson
On 11 May 2010, at 17:55, Edward Martinez wrote: I'm sorry, with these kind if news i get concern and once i get concern lot of ideas start flowing in my head on how i can help out. Concerned about what? That somebody who was actively working on OpenSolaris is now going to be...