Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
Is it just me, or is this something that no one wants to say out aloud?
This is an ENTERPRISE level operating system from SUN, one of the big dogs!
And yet, even an initial install seems to be a nightmare. The installer
interface looks like it was designed in the 70s,
Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
Well...I guess a lot has changed in the last 10 years. Video cards are as
cheap as a cable now. And a GUI doesn't necassarily have to be tied to video,
it can be a web console.
But I digress. My point is that in TODAY's world, I'm flabbergasted as to why
would you
Is it just me, or is this something that no one wants to say out aloud?
This is an ENTERPRISE level operating system from SUN, one of the big dogs! And
yet, even an initial install seems to be a nightmare. The installer interface
looks like it was designed in the 70s, it can't find half the
While I'm all for fast, stable operating systems, this is 2008, there should
be no excuse for not having even basic GUI interfaces for your installed
hardware, drivers, versions, etc.
Can SUN not even do that? I'm amazed.
Basically the answer to your question is yes, they can not do that
On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:10:17 PDT
Kapil Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I'm all for fast, stable operating systems, this is 2008, there
should be no excuse for not having even basic GUI interfaces for your
installed hardware, drivers, versions, etc.
Well... 99% of the Sun systems I
[..]
Well... 99% of the Sun systems I installed in enterprises during the
last 10 years (300++ systems) came without a graphics card. It really
helps in those cases, to have a command line interface.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but OpenSolaris _nowadays_ is being pushed as a
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 08:33 -0700, MC wrote:
While I'm all for fast, stable operating systems, this is 2008, there
should be no excuse for not having even basic GUI interfaces for your
installed hardware, drivers, versions, etc.
Can SUN not even do that? I'm amazed.
Basically the
Javier Augusto wrote:
[..]
Well... 99% of the Sun systems I installed in enterprises during the
last 10 years (300++ systems) came without a graphics card. It really
helps in those cases, to have a command line interface.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but OpenSolaris _nowadays_ is
While I'm all for fast, stable operating systems,
this is 2008, there should be no excuse for not
having even basic GUI interfaces for your installed
hardware, drivers, versions, etc.
Can SUN not even do that? I'm amazed.
Basically the answer to your question is yes, they
can not do
Is it just me, or is this something that no one wants to say out aloud?
This is an ENTERPRISE level operating system from SUN, one of the big dogs!
And yet, even an initial install seems to be a nightmare. The installer
interface looks like it was designed in the 70s, it can't find half the
Well...I guess a lot has changed in the last 10 years. Video cards are as cheap
as a cable now. And a GUI doesn't necassarily have to be tied to video, it can
be a web console.
But I digress. My point is that in TODAY's world, I'm flabbergasted as to why
would you have a new release of an O/S
Should I read that as Sun doesn't really want to make Solaris a mainstream
O/S? Because if they really are (Why else would OpenSolaris exist?) I don't
get the whole who cares about GUI, it's all int he command line! concept.
Command lines though useful in doing batch processing and clumping
Should I read that as Sun doesn't really want to make Solaris a mainstream
O/S?
No, you should read that as Microsoft has 20x the market value of Sun, and that
is reflected in how much product development Sun can do, and how fast they can
do it...
This message posted from opensolaris.org
But SUN is working on the install. In OpenSolaris the install has been changed.
It is coming.
This message posted from opensolaris.org
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Kapil Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I don't get the whole who cares about GUI, it's all int he command line!
concept.
Command lines though useful in doing batch processing and clumping together
multiple things in a script, are a thing of the
On 21 May 2008, at 17:27, Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
But I digress. My point is that in TODAY's world, I'm flabbergasted
as to why would you have a new release of an O/S (Opensolaris
2008.05..with a lot of fanfare) which has such abysmal support for
hardware/video/keyboard/network/storage
OpenSolaris 2008.05 is a version 1.0 build from a community project.
You will see it develop very quickly because of the source commonality,
but its still V1.0.
Kapil: You are jumping around on target markets from mainstream
enterprise to consumer desktops. These things have very different
I love a good GUI. Web browsing looks better than lynx, and I can open up
multiple xterms and work on multiple command lines at the same time. The only
GUI tool I use is printmgr because lpadmin syntax sucks. I've been a SysAdmin
since before the GUI and really would not miss it if it went
Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
Well...I guess a lot has changed in the last 10 years. Video cards are as
cheap as a cable now. And a GUI doesn't necassarily have to be tied to video,
it can be a web console.
But I digress. My point is that in TODAY's world, I'm flabbergasted as to why
would you
Been following Solaris for the better part of two decades. Did casual stuff
with it off and on, nothing hardcore. Which should answer the how long have
you been using computers.
GUI is nice but not necessary for many computer tasks.
Sure. It aint necassary for many tasks, but it certainly makes
Kapil Aggarwal wrote:
Been following Solaris for the better part of two decades. Did casual stuff
with it off and on, nothing hardcore. Which should answer the how long have
you been using computers.
GUI is nice but not necessary for many computer tasks.
Sure. It aint necassary for many
Is it just me, or is this something that no one wants
to say out aloud?
This is an ENTERPRISE level operating system from
SUN, one of the big dogs! And yet, even an initial
install seems to be a nightmare. The installer
interface looks like it was designed in the 70s, it
can't find half
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