Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
And herein lies the main clue. It seems Solaris, like FreeBSD, has the same lack-of-backup-options for zfs (dump doesn't work), unless you have a secondary server with at least the same amount of diskspace, running UFS, and willing to cache zfs sends on that ufs for writing those to the tape.

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
Replying to my own post (isn't that a sure indicator of insanity starting or something?) What are the chances the next Opensolaris x86/x64 livecd including the statically compiled bacula (or other) binaries allowing the use of that for disaster-recovery from a backup? //Svein -- This message

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Erik Trimble
Svein Skogen wrote: And herein lies the main clue. It seems Solaris, like FreeBSD, has the same lack-of-backup-options for zfs (dump doesn't work), unless you have a secondary server with at least the same amount of diskspace, running UFS, and willing to cache zfs sends on that ufs for

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
And again ... Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? I was thinking something along the lines of zfs send (when device goes full) returning send suspended. To resume insert new media and issue zfs resume IDNUMBER and receive handling: zfs

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
hmmm I guess I have to give amanda another look. I'm on SVN133 (since the yge driver is present there and not in the older release, and all four NICs on my server are Marvell 88e8056 yukon chips and I really want dladm to work). Yet another chicken-and-egg situation... Does the amanda packages

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Darren Mackay
a number of apps support zfs extended attributes, but not many support backup up snapshots in a format that can be *easily* recovered (ie - as a regular snapshot of a filesystem). hopefully this will change in the future ;-) if you want to backup snapshot too, then perhaps something like:

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Is there any work on an upgrade of zfs send/receive to handle resuming on next media? See Darren's post, regarding mkfifo. The purpose is to enable you to use normal backup tools that support changing tapes, to backup your zfs send to multiple split tapes. I wonder though - During a restore,

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-04 Thread Svein Skogen
I'm falling back to a rather similar solution, but on a different approach. The FreeBSD istgt daemon can share targets from files, not zvols, and since it has a plain ascii config file, if I do things less fancy, and use a flat /storage (for the storage zpool) with subdirectories, that can be

[osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Svein Skogen
Until now, I've ran Windows Storage server 2008, but the ... lack of iSCSI performance has gotten me so fed up that I've now moved all the files off the server, to install opensolaris with two zpools, and nfs+smb+iSCSI sharing towards my windows clients, and vmware ESXi boxes (two of them). So

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Rob Healey
Storage that large you might want to consider using backup packages like Bacula or Amanda. Both should support your changer/LTO3 drive setup. I believe both package have bare metal restore capability. I've mostly used bacula with Solaris/Linux/BSD and Amanda is pretty common as well. -Rob --

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Svein Skogen
Is getting bacula up and running a non-trivial task on Opensolaris, and how would I go about disaster-recovery and getting the zvol's down to tape? (So I don't have to recreate the vmware solution that handles my mail and webservers today) //Svein -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Hartzell
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:16 -0800, Svein Skogen wrote: Is getting bacula up and running a non-trivial task on Opensolaris, and how would I go about disaster-recovery and getting the zvol's down to tape? (So I don't have to recreate the vmware solution that handles my mail and webservers

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Svein Skogen
The disaster-recovery-aspect is what made me ask questions in the first place. Knowing myself, in a recovery situation (usually due to my own mistakes rather than natural disasters), I would be on the edge of sanity stress-wise, and a disaster-recovery-method of reinstalling entire os,

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
to a real solution. I need something that on regular intervals pushes this zpool: storage 4.06T 1.19T 2.87T29% 1.00x ONLINE - onto a series of tapes, and I really want a solution that allows me to If you need to write onto a series of tapes, you basically need Amanda, or

Re: [osol-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
The disaster-recovery-aspect is what made me ask questions in the first This is one of the reasons I like the solution I just wrote in the other email. The OS itself has nothing special installed on it at all. In a disaster recovery, I simply perform a vanilla installation of solaris, and then