Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Kupfer
Joerg> I thought I was on osol-code but then it seems I am not Hmm, you're listed in the mailman membership list. Did you get any of the messages that were posted since Friday? Joerg> it is impossible to subscribe if the mailman interface does not Joerg> work What problem are you having w

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-26 Thread Patrick Mauritz
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 11:23, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Thank you for doing this work. I'm still pondering a way to make it public, both to play around with one potential tool for the project and to make it easier publish and manage patches (adapting them to a newer tree is just a "monotone merge" aw

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is there no official announcement on this list as it has > > been before Jne 14th? > > This is partly my fault. I talked it over with Mike Kupfer (who made > the previous announcements), and we thought that it would be unnecessary > to announce it

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:14, Felix Schulte wrote: > > any comments? > see http://www.openbios.org/~oxygene/opensolaris.txt.bz2 for what > changed in the various source drops (06-12, 07-01, 07-20, 08-18) Thank you for doing this work. Although I would

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?S

2005-08-25 Thread Derek Cicero
Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Alan Hargreaves - Product Technical Support (APAC) wrote: I would have thought that this would be the perfect thing to be delivered in an RSS feed. I agree, but it needn't be an "or". Announcements should be available via osol-announce, opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?S

2005-08-25 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Alan Hargreaves - Product Technical Support (APAC) wrote: > I would have thought that this would be the perfect thing to be > delivered in an RSS feed. I agree, but it needn't be an "or". Announcements should be available via osol-announce, opensolaris.org, an RSS feed, and

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Alan Hargreaves - Product Technical Support (APAC)
Rich Teer wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mike Kupfer wrote: I agree that polling for changes is a pain. But if we can deliver new updates on a regular basis, and an announcement is posted on the web site front page, is an email announcement really necessary? If you're not reading the announceme

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread James Lick
Mike Kupfer wrote: But if we can deliver new updates on a regular basis, and an announcement is posted on the web site front page, is an email announcement really necessary? Yes. I only noticed this release by accident yesterday. Whether it is an osol-announce or an RSS feed as others sugg

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Wez Furlong
How about offering an RSS feed for the announcements section? Should be pretty easy to set up and meet the immediate needs fairly transparently. --Wez. Mike Kupfer wrote: I agree that polling for changes is a pain. But if we can deliver new updates on a regular basis, and an announcement is

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mike Kupfer wrote: > > "Al" == Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Al> The real issue is that there was no transparency to the user > Al> community in the decision making process. > > That's not entirely true. > > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageI

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Mike Kupfer
> "Al" == Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Al> The real issue is that there was no transparency to the user Al> community in the decision making process. That's not entirely true. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=7212&tstart=0 mike

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mike Kupfer wrote: > A few people have asked why there wasn't an email announcement for the > build 20 delivery, especially since there were email announcements for > each delivery during the Pilot program. > > The reasons were > > 1. we're trying to move to a regular delivery

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mike Kupfer wrote: > I agree that polling for changes is a pain. But if we can deliver new > updates on a regular basis, and an announcement is posted on the web > site front page, is an email announcement really necessary? If you're > not reading the announcements on the we

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Mike Kupfer
A few people have asked why there wasn't an email announcement for the build 20 delivery, especially since there were email announcements for each delivery during the Pilot program. The reasons were 1. we're trying to move to a regular delivery schedule (so special announcements are not needed

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-24 13:30]: > On 8/24/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:14, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > any comments? > > see http://www.openbios.org/~oxygene/opensolaris.txt.bz2 > > Is there no Bonsai/CVSblame for the source tre

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Stephen Lau
Joerg Schilling wrote: * Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-24 13:14]: Today we had a slightly bad discussion on irc.freenode.de about OpenSolaris being a marketing move and no real project (main argument: no source updates since 14-Jun-2005) and the guy ("jinderhawk") prepares a story

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-24 13:14]: > > Today we had a slightly bad discussion on irc.freenode.de about > > OpenSolaris being a marketing move and no real project (main argument: > > no source updates since 14-Jun-2005) and the guy ("ji

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Stephen Lau
Felix Schulte wrote: These are code drops but contain zero content information *why* things were changed (3rd claim from IRC: Sun provides no changelog and per-issue source diff, making the project useless for non-sun contributors). Hi Felix, I did the August 18th code drop. We are trying to

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:40:20PM +0200, Felix Schulte wrote: > > A mailing list for CVS commits would be cool (which notifies > subscribers about commits and new/deleted CVS tags (for releases) > being made) ... > Again, more things on the TODO list. The first step is to figure out how to make

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Felix Schulte wrote: A mailing list for CVS commits would be cool (which notifies subscribers about commits and new/deleted CVS tags (for releases) being made) ... That would require deciding to use CVS first, and that's a whole can of worms yet to be solved. (I agree though with the general p

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Patrick Mauritz
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:30, Felix Schulte wrote: > Is there no Bonsai/CVSblame for the source tree at opensolaris.org? there is no public revision control system in place yet, basically because none was chosen yet. the import into monotone that led to the changelog I posted was done manually by me

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Sean Sprague
Hi Felix, Today we had a slightly bad discussion on irc.freenode.de about OpenSolaris being a marketing move and no real project (main argument: no source updates since 14-Jun-2005) and the guy ("jinderhawk") prepares a story on slashdot based on that discussion... any comments? I just looked

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 10:30:01PM +0200, Felix Schulte wrote: > On 8/24/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:14, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > any comments? > > see http://www.openbios.org/~oxygene/opensolaris.txt.bz2 > > Is there no Bonsai/CVSblame for the sou

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Felix Schulte
On 8/24/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote: > > > > The current source on the Sun Download Center is dated 18 August; this > > corresponds to Build 20, I believe. There was an earlier release on > > 20 July, still available at genunix.org.

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote: The current source on the Sun Download Center is dated 18 August; this corresponds to Build 20, I believe. There was an earlier release on 20 July, still available at genunix.org. See http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads for links to the various

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Felix Schulte
On 8/24/05, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:14, Felix Schulte wrote: > > any comments? > see http://www.openbios.org/~oxygene/opensolaris.txt.bz2 Is there no Bonsai/CVSblame for the source tree at opensolaris.org? >for what > changed in the various source dro

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Felix Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-24 13:14]: > Today we had a slightly bad discussion on irc.freenode.de about > OpenSolaris being a marketing move and no real project (main argument: > no source updates since 14-Jun-2005) and the guy ("jinderhawk") > prepares a story on slashdot based o

Re: [osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Patrick Mauritz
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 22:14, Felix Schulte wrote: > any comments? see http://www.openbios.org/~oxygene/opensolaris.txt.bz2 for what changed in the various source drops (06-12, 07-01, 07-20, 08-18) patrick mauritz ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list op

[osol-discuss] No kernel source updates?

2005-08-24 Thread Felix Schulte
Today we had a slightly bad discussion on irc.freenode.de about OpenSolaris being a marketing move and no real project (main argument: no source updates since 14-Jun-2005) and the guy ("jinderhawk") prepares a story on slashdot based on that discussion... any comments? -- _Felix Schu