Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-11-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Octave Orgeron unixcons...@yahoo.com wrote: AIX folks are rather rare to run into. In the US, you'll find more AIX in the north mid-west and east coast. In those cases, a lot of them are insurance, manufacturing, or financial services (getting rare in FS these days though). Most shops that

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-31 Thread john kroll
FYI, at LISA this year there is a whole track on Solaris 11 Express;) I really don't know that much about LISA but TM/2 source seems to have activity with opentm2. http://www.opentm2.org/home -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-31 Thread Octave Orgeron
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Original Message From: john kroll jek0...@sbcglobal.net To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 11:09:06 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future FYI, at LISA this year

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-31 Thread john kroll
LISA is a conference. Not sure how TM/2 is related to the topic. Sorry that's a speculation on pt 3 of an article : http://www.lisa.org/globalizationinsider/2010/07/is_2010_the_yea.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-31 Thread Alan Coopersmith
john kroll wrote: LISA is a conference. Not sure how TM/2 is related to the topic. Sorry that's a speculation on pt 3 of an article : http://www.lisa.org/globalizationinsider/2010/07/is_2010_the_yea.html Different LISA - that's an l10n/i18n organization, the LISA at which the Solaris event

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:49:22 -0700, you wrote: That said, AIX admins are rare, and will become and endangered species soon. Particularly, anyone under 40 at this time. I'd be willing to bet that there aren't more than 100 people world-wide born after 1980 who could actually lay claim to

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Erik Trimble
On 10/30/2010 2:52 AM, Kees Nuyt wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:49:22 -0700, you wrote: That said, AIX admins are rare, and will become and endangered species soon. Particularly, anyone under 40 at this time. I'd be willing to bet that there aren't more than 100 people world-wide born after

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 03:31:44 -0700, you wrote: (I'm sure they'd count - but, are they under 30?). Of those 6 people, 2 or 3 are under 30. Perhaps AIX is more popular in Europe ;) -- ( Kees Nuyt ) c[_] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
*raises his hand to consider himself as learning AIX* My last position got me learning a little bit of AIX, but I'm going to work more on it. BTW, I'm 27. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:45, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 03:31:44 -0700, you wrote: (I'm sure they'd count -

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: On 10/29/2010 7:04 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: AIX is soon dead, according to IBM executives. That is the reason there are not too many great AIX people around. Nah, I haven't seen any pronouncements of the death of AIX in the last couple of

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Octave Orgeron
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Original Message From: Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 5:31:44 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future On 10/30/2010 2:52 AM, Kees Nuyt wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:49:22 -0700

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-30 Thread Erik Trimble
On 10/30/2010 11:01 AM, joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Erik Trimbleerik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: On 10/29/2010 7:04 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: AIX is soon dead, according to IBM executives. That is the reason there are not too many great AIX people around. Nah, I haven't seen any

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-29 Thread Chris Ridd
On 28 Oct 2010, at 20:15, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: and the forum could be better organized like this one for example I could not find a forum at openindiana.org at all... Is it exists? They have mailing lists instead. Cheers, Chris ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-29 Thread Orvar Korvar
AIX is soon dead, according to IBM executives. That is the reason there are not too many great AIX people around. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-29 Thread Erik Trimble
On 10/29/2010 7:04 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: AIX is soon dead, according to IBM executives. That is the reason there are not too many great AIX people around. Nah, I haven't seen any pronouncements of the death of AIX in the last couple of years. At the minimum, it will continue on like

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-29 Thread stephen bond
here: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Installing+or+Upgrading -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-28 Thread usafverteran
Guess there aren't too many of us great AIX people around :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-28 Thread stephen bond
Alasdair, I did not post as it was late and I felt exhausted after trying so many times to install. I think I saw another post with same problem like mine. the upgrade from 2009.06 to 134 simply does not happen. it says there is no image to upgarde. and the forum could be better organized like

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-28 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
and the forum could be better organized like this one for example I could not find a forum at openindiana.org at all... Is it exists? - Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 26 Oct 2010, at 03:23, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: Hmm. If one wrote and distributed a free Firefox plugin or extension, then all web surfing (and checking one's email for bug reports) would be development and test, right? :-) If one wrote a GUI front-end for configuring something

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] Oracle are targeting Solaris at Banks. They don't seem to want a Solaris community. They seem to want your money, and only want you using Solaris 11 Express if you're developing for it, evaluating it, or intend to buy it. Not sure if it's so much greed as control freaks. Or else they

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Doug Scott
Sorry, your comments about banks is totally wrong. Yes, they do need screaming performance, and yes many run Solaris at many levels. How do I know? It's my day job On 26 October 2010 18:10, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: [...] But going after _banks_, please. Sun had a

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Octave Orgeron
From: Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tue, October 26, 2010 6:10:43 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future [...] Oracle are targeting Solaris at Banks. They don't seem to want a Solaris community. They seem to want

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Octave Orgeron unixcons...@yahoo.com wrote: Speaking as someone who has worked extensively in the financial services world, I can tell you that performance is key. You'd be surprised at how many mid-range to high-end SPARC servers are in banks today. And I'm not talking about E10ks,

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Edward Martinez
, they also need to avoid alienating their best developers and also all the small-time users (students, programmers/sysadmins that also use Solaris at home, small businesses) Only if we could get all those superstar devs that left to join either OpenIndiana, Illumos,nexenta. I would love

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 26 Oct 2010, at 23:05, Edward Martinez wrote: , they also need to avoid alienating their best developers and also all the small-time users (students, programmers/sysadmins that also use Solaris at home, small businesses) Only if we could get all those superstar devs that left to join

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-25 Thread stephen bond
so will the update manager of an official release 2009.06 update to a sol11 express or that will be like a new os install? personal use is fine for me and OI is way too buggy still. won't upgrade following the explicit directions on their website and support seems to be a big mess (I am sure

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-25 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/26/10 09:54 AM, stephen bond wrote: so will the update manager of an official release 2009.06 update to a sol11 express or that will be like a new os install? Who (or at least who can speak publicly) knows? We will have to wait and see. -- Ian.

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-25 Thread Alasdair Lumsden
On 25 Oct 2010, at 21:54, stephen bond wrote: so will the update manager of an official release 2009.06 update to a sol11 express or that will be like a new os install? personal use is fine for me and OI is way too buggy still. won't upgrade following the explicit directions on their

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] personal use is fine for me and OI is way too buggy still. won't upgrade following the explicit directions on their website and support seems to be a big mess (I am sure that will change in 6 months) Hi Stephen, Obviously OI is in bootstrap phase at the moment and there are of

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-14 Thread john kroll
What recent builds? The publicly released builds for community development ?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-14 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:14 AM, john kroll jek0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What recent builds? The publicly released builds for community development ?? The only publicly released builds for community development have come from the community. The last one that Sun/Oracle published was b134. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-14 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Mike Gerdts The only publicly released builds for community development have come from the community. The last one that Sun/Oracle published was b134. I suggest that you

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: (b) 11express will be the non-production teaser, equivalent to sol11, but free only for personal use Express is the name used for releases while development is still underway, before the final release. See all the previous Solaris Express and Studio Express releases.

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-12 Thread samantha brekel
when will the recent builds be completed -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-12 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/13/10 04:27 PM, samantha brekel wrote: when will the recent builds be completed What recent builds? -- Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-07-17 Thread Orvar Korvar
We all see that the development pace on OpenSolaris is high, even today: http://static.opensolaris.org/on/flagdays/141-145.html http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/year/2010.html As I have understood it, the source code is available to check out, yes? So, what hinders that the community just

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-07-17 Thread Anil Gulecha
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: We all see that the development pace on OpenSolaris is high, even today: http://static.opensolaris.org/on/flagdays/141-145.html http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/year/2010.html As I have understood it, the

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-07-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Orvar Korvar wrote: As I have understood it, the source code is available to check out, yes? Yes. So, what hinders that the community just checks it out and releases a build or an ISO file? Nothing beyond lack of community members with all of the required time, knowledge and desire.