[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-17 Thread Amey Abhyankar
Have you ever read the miles of legalese that comes (not for free, I imagine) with every single Microsoft product? There's nothing to imagine as such. Everything is front of our eyes. When you imagine, it means you are unsure. And by the way there

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-16 Thread Amey Abhyankar
Free What comes in your mind when your hear this word ? Probably to get something without spending anything. Well IBM,Sun and all competitor's are throwing this word across the globe. IBM already announced they are looking forward in to the new era of Open Source..Is that a way to make

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-16 Thread Ghee Teo
From Sun: Use and develop of Solaris 10 is free unless you need support http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/support.jsp -Ghhe Amey Abhyankar wrote: Free What comes in your mind when your hear this word ? Probably to get something without spending anything. Well IBM,Sun and all

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-16 Thread James Carlson
Amey Abhyankar writes: Microsoft's term and conditions are pretty straight forward. Buy licensed product of Microsoft. Thats it . You're kidding, right? Have you ever read the miles of legalese that comes (not for free, I imagine) with every single Microsoft product? Have you ever tried to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-13 Thread James Carlson
girish writes: I was thinking that maybe SUN wanted to keep the official releases binary-only and only make the intermediate builds publicly available via opensolaris. So thats what's there in OpenSolaris may not exactly match with what was used to build the official release. But I am glad

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Gary Gendel
OpenSolaris is open source. Solaris is Sun's use of those parts of OpenSolaris they deem appropriate, plus additional proprietary code. Since some of the code is owned by Sun or some other vendor it will not be made available. This is akin to the Fedora/RedHat and other Linux commercial

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread De Togni Giacomo
Good issue.If Linux sources == OpenSolaris and RHEL == Solaris,which is the member of Fedora expression? ( Fedora == ?) Could be this the demand of the original question? Giacomo ___ OpenSolaris - The Pride of a community This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
De Togni Giacomo wrote: Good issue.If Linux sources == OpenSolaris and RHEL == Solaris,which is the member of Fedora expression? ( Fedora == ?) I'd say: Fedora Release = Solaris Express Developer Edition Fedora Development/Rawhide = Solaris Express Community Edition -- -Alan

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread girish
ggendal, The source code for Red Hat is available. In fact the CentOS project uses it. Why can't SUN release the code for the official release what is there to hide? When the official Solaris 11 is out will it include the source code? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
girish wrote: Why can't SUN release the code for the official release what is there to hide? The sources for Solaris 10 did not have the encumbered pieces removed and the required open source license notices in place, among other things. The open sourcing of Solaris happened after Solaris 10

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread James Carlson
Alan Coopersmith writes: girish wrote: When the official Solaris 11 is out will it include the source code? The source code for most of it will be available on opensolaris.org. Much of it is there already. Underlying many of the original poster's questions seems to be a misunderstanding of

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread girish
alanc, Thanks, you have answered my question ! Sorry about the skepticism but I think the question was pertinent. BTW, I think Solaris is the best engineered free *nix I have seen. :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Moinak Ghosh
girish wrote: ggendal, The source code for Red Hat is available. In fact the CentOS project uses it. Why can't SUN release the code for the official release what is there to hide? The OpenSolaris source is essentially Solaris 10 - encumbered pieces + lots of changes and developments

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread De Togni Giacomo
Ok,now I have another question. if RHEL == Solaris Fedora == Solaris Express CE and DE Linux sources == OpenSolaris (for all distro free and commercial) Could be move SX:CE (like Fedora) from Sun site to OpenSolaris site (and free mirrors) without an account (or with a community account) to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
De Togni Giacomo wrote: Ok,now I have another question. if RHEL == Solaris Fedora == Solaris Express CE and DE Linux sources == OpenSolaris (for all distro free and commercial) Could be move SX:CE (like Fedora) from Sun site to OpenSolaris site (and free mirrors) without an account (or with

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread girish
Moinak, I understand that some of the stuff like CDE cannot be released under an open-source license and given that OpenSolaris was created after the release of S10 it makes little sense in going back and releasing the older S10 codebase. But what I really wanted to know was if ON and the

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread girish
Oops! There seems to be some problem with this thread. When I click post message I get some java error then after a few attempts it works but... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, girish wrote: older S10 codebase. But what I really wanted to know was if ON and the other bits for S11 would be available when it's officially released. So They already ARE available, so yes, at the point in time the current code base is frozen for the official Solaris 11

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread James Carlson
girish writes: I understand that some of the stuff like CDE cannot be released under an open-source license and given that OpenSolaris was created after the release of S10 it makes little sense in going back and releasing the older S10 codebase. But what I really wanted to know was if ON

[osol-discuss] Re: Will Solaris be open-source in the future

2007-03-12 Thread girish
James, I was thinking that maybe SUN wanted to keep the official releases binary-only and only make the intermediate builds publicly available via opensolaris. So thats what's there in OpenSolaris may not exactly match with what was used to build the official release. But I am glad to know