Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Gary Driggs
On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: Well...Solaris 11 express support for production use will be made available under the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems program, maybe those who are enrolled will have access to the source code. maybe not. For awhile, some MySQL

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Edward Martinez
. So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org maybe illumos/openindiana are

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states (http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173478) that Oracle Solaris 11 is scheduled to contain more than 2,700

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Btw, at http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173478 : The first Oracle Solaris 11 Express release, expected by the end of calendar year 2010, will provide customers with timely access to the latest Oracle Solaris 11 Express features with an optional Oracle support agreement. This release

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Edward Martinez
They say that support agreement is *optional* for Solaris 11 Express. the battle of the articles;-) it may be optional but according to a few oracle sites it appears updates will only be available to whom is enrolled in the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems offering.

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Nikola M
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Well...Solaris 11 express support for production use will be made available under the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems program, maybe those who are enrolled will have access to the source code. maybe not. Sol 11 Express is open source for everyone.

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Nikola M
Edward Martinez wrote: well... if it happens that updates won't be made available to end-users,devs, etc unless we are enrolled in the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems offering then that is one main feature we lost we had a new opensolaris /dev build; updated software. i

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Gary Driggs
On Sep 22, 2010, at 1:24 AM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: Can Illumos developers spend 20 million person hours of development? There's much to be said for quality versus quantity. ;) -Gary ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states (http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173478) that Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:24, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states (http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/173478) that

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Edward Martinez
Jorg When can we expect SchilliX-0.7.1i+ to be made available to download? Regards Edward -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Did Oracle really spend 1 man years? Yes, I ask myself the same question :) - Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Given that the development metric quoted there is the cumulative historic investment in the existing code-base, Illumos would probably be just as justified as Oracle in making the same claim. Agreed. 20 million hours cannot refer to (Open)Solaris 10 - 11 improvements. - Dmitry. -- This

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Du (Dmitry G. Kozhinov) schreibst: Did Oracle really spend 1 man years? Yes, I ask myself the same question :) - Dmitry. Solaris, as we know it now, is based and naturally derived from SunOS... (which was BSD). So, after 28 years of SunOS (Solaris itself internally still calls itself

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: When can we expect SchilliX-0.7.1i+ to be made available to download? There will be a self hosting SchilliX-0.7.2 tomorrow (in case there are no problems). This will be based on the same kernel as seen in 0.7.1i. During the past time, I compiled a

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: So perhaps Illumos/OpenIndiana will become the OurDelta or MariaDB equivalent of Oracle Solaris and outshine its predecessor. :) I am very doubtful about this. Oracle states

[osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Edward Martinez
now that's official, i guess i don't have to search for news articles about opensolaris future. So Long OpenSolaris :-( Dan Roberts, Director of Solaris Product Management surprised attendees by stating that the OpenSolaris brand was going away. Although the name itself won’t continue, the

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Farid Hajji
He stressed that Oracle will continue to work with the Linux community on the open-source version of OpenSolaris, as well as Oracle Linux and its Red Hat Compatible Linux. Linux Community? What about working with the OpenSolaris community? How about reopening onnv-gate again to IllumOS?

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
He stressed that Oracle will continue to work with the Linux community on the open-source version of OpenSolaris, as well as Oracle Linux and its Red Hat Compatible Linux. Linux Community? What about working with the OpenSolaris community? How about reopening onnv-gate again to

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/22/10 10:57 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: My concern would be more that Oracle may well continue to change the rules whenever they think there's more money to be squeezed. I of course think that's short-sighted, and trades money today for shrinking market share tomorrow. I think

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread john kroll
So has OpenSolaris Tm retired or opensolaris the hostname retired ?? Or is the bet still on open -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
john kroll wrote: So has OpenSolaris Tm retired or opensolaris the hostname retired ?? Or is the bet still on open I believe only the OpenSolaris name for the distro has retired, and there are no plans to give up the OpenSolaris trademark nor the opensolaris.org domain name, both of which are

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Edward Martinez
He stressed that Oracle will continue to work with the Linux community on the open-source version of OpenSolaris, as well as Oracle Linux and its Red Hat Compatible Linux. Linux Community? What about working with the OpenSolaris community? How about reopening onnv-gate again to

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Well...Solaris 11 express support for production use will be made available under the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems program, maybe those who are enrolled will have access to the source code. maybe not. Sol 11 Express is open source for everyone. The only difference is a less