Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread Carlo Wood
Hi Nyx and list, I (finally) realized that there IS something that would be a great improvement of wearables that won't be too hard to implement :). I don't have a solution (yet), but let me describe the problem, and maybe the list can come up with the solution. I store wearables in folders, and

[opensource-dev] Wearing multiple folders at once (was: Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables)

2010-03-29 Thread Boroondas Gupte
Just wanted to propose this as possible work flow for your task, only to notice that it's already there: 1. Select the (maybe already worn) 'naked' folder 2. Hold down *Ctrl* and click the 'swim outfit' folder to add it to the selection 3. Right click one of the selected folders and

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread Kitty
> This method as several disadvantages: it's a lot of work, I > have to find back the folder outfit that I'm currently > wearing, there is the danger that I accidently click 'replace > outfit' in the last step and it causes often two or three > rebakes instead of one. > > What I'd like is an i

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread 'Carlo Wood'
I like this idea! To translate it back to it's purest abstract form, we would like to be able to construct outfits in an object oriented way: be able to derive an outfit from other outfits. The "folder link" would be a pointer to the "base class" so to speak. However, we have to solve the follow

Re: [opensource-dev] [Linux] Frequent crashes with last Viewer 2 beta release

2010-03-29 Thread Tofu Linden
Anyone seeing this 100%, please email me your complete ~/.secondlife/logs/SecondLife.log for a crashed session. Thanks! Lance Corrimal wrote: > I'm having a similar experience here. > > Am Sonntag 28 März 2010 schrieb Jonathan Irvin: >> Approx. how long into your session does it crash? > > a fe

Re: [opensource-dev] Wearing multiple folders at once (was: Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables)

2010-03-29 Thread Kitty
(*) When both folders contain attachments, you'll get a message "Cannot complete attachments. An attachment is pending for that spot", even if they have different attachment points, and only attachments from one folder are actually attached. Interestingly, when selecting just multiple attachmen

Re: [opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

2010-03-29 Thread Tofu Linden
On your system it's trying to load 103 system fonts for full unicode coverage (on my system it's 43 fonts, which also seems huge so I never dreamed of testing with 100+). Not a huge problem in itself, but the current font system is hugely wasteful of resources and Linux's font autoprobing can retur

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extendingavatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread Frans
I might be wrong, but doesn't Viewer 2 already cover some the things you want? Creating links to other outfits, and putting them all in the new outfit folder(not sure what it is called, atm). It does put everything together, so if you buy new hair you would have to redo them, I think. On Mon, Mar

Re: [opensource-dev] [Linux] Frequent crashes with last Viewer 2 beta release

2010-03-29 Thread Lance Corrimal
Hi, i guess on my system it's the "loads of fonts" problem described in another thread, I _do_ have an awful lot of fonts installed here. bye, LC Am Montag 29 März 2010 schrieb Tofu Linden: > Anyone seeing this 100%, please email me your complete > ~/.secondlife/logs/SecondLife.log for a crash

Re: [opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

2010-03-29 Thread Tayra Dagostino
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:58:30 +0100 Tofu Linden wrote: > On your system it's trying to load 103 system fonts for full unicode > coverage (on my system it's 43 fonts, which also seems huge so I > never dreamed of testing with 100+). > Not a huge problem in itself, but the current font system is hug

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extending avatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread Nyx Linden
Forums for discussing multi-wearables and related issues can be found here: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/forums/open-source/open-development/multi-wearables Please re-direct all multi-wearables related conversations there - I'd like to keep all discussion centralized so everyone knows

Re: [opensource-dev] Wearing multiple folders at once (was: OpenDevelopment project: extendingavatar wearables)

2010-03-29 Thread Kitty
Added a preliminary patch for 2.0 to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5063 ("Cannot attach multiple objects via wear") if anyone wants to look it over :). I tried to avoid actually handling bridge-specific actions in LLFolderView this time: - LLFolderView::doToSelected() groups all selected

Re: [opensource-dev] SL2 font problem on linux

2010-03-29 Thread Glen Canaday
Oh, wow. I guess I'll be remembering this one. I had no idea on it. --GC On 03/29/2010 02:44 PM, Tayra Dagostino wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:58:30 +0100 > Tofu Linden wrote: > > >> On your system it's trying to load 103 system fonts for full unicode >> coverage (on my system it's 43 font

[opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-29 Thread Morgaine
In this note I'll identify 3 simple scenarios in which TPV developers can retain some confidence that the "NO WARRANTY" clauses of their open licenses remain intact. This is a technical reading of GPLv2 and similar licenses which developers can verify for themselves, rather than a legal reading of

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Development project: extending avatar wearables

2010-03-29 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Joel Foner wrote: > This is a pretty generic question, but I hope it will be helpful. > > Under what conditions might it be possible to do a fairly quick to > release version and then iterate the feature behavior towards > something more sophisticated, withou

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-29 Thread Maya Remblai
I thought the TPV policy went into effect on April 30? Maya Morgaine wrote: > In this note I'll identify 3 simple scenarios in which TPV developers > can retain some confidence that the "NO WARRANTY" clauses of their > open licenses remain intact. This is a technical reading of GPLv2 and > si

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-29 Thread Boy Lane
Small correction here, according to the FAQ the commencement date of TPV is 30 April, so one more month from now on. - Original Message - From: Morgaine To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Cc: Boy Lane ; Ryan McDougall Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: A n

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-29 Thread Morgaine
Thanks Maya, and Boy! I'm very glad to hear that there is still a month to go. In that case one can still live in hope that LL might reconsider and rewrite the policy into something reasonable and unambiguously GPL-compliant for SL TPV developers. There's still time. Morgaine. ===

[opensource-dev] svn viewer-external

2010-03-29 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, We've been moving along turning the export script on. After a couple of issues of various nature (Linux build, upload to S3, creation of asset URLs usable externally), we now have a working auto export and commit script for the vendor branch! Yeah! Since we also wanted something consistent (a

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-29 Thread Marine Kelley
Thank you for the heads up Morgaine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the "no warranty" clause vanishes from the source code, then does that mean that LL guarantees that the code of the original viewer is bug- free ? We can't guarantee it as open source programmers if the original devs don't