[opensource-dev] Daily Scrum Summary - Wednesday, October 20

2010-10-20 Thread Anya Kanevsky
Summary covers 2 days, since we had a sprint planning meeting instead of our daily standup on tuesday. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive Date: Wed Oct 20 == GENERAL NOTES == * Merge Monkey of the Day: Oz == DAILY SCRUM == === Merov === PAST * Sprint 6 planning meeti

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-406: Conditional use of FMOD is not correct, breaks open source build (was: Latest build broken on Mac)

2010-10-20 Thread Latif Khalifa
Tested with https://bitbucket.org/merov_linden/viewer-development-storm-137 which produces working viewer, with FMOD support. Make sure to follow the updated instructions on the wiki that are mentioned in STORM-406, Latif On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Ponzu wrote: > Boroondas, my guru! > > O

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Glen Canaday
I do sometimes wonder what happened to i, ii, iii, iv, and v, though. Must be like that "Leonard Part 6" movie Bill Cosby did in the early 80's. --GC On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:45 -0500, Dave Booth wrote: > On 10/20/2010 18:40, Ponzu wrote: > > Alas, so many generations of coder who learned vi from

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Glen Canaday
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 19:40 -0400, Ponzu wrote: > Alas, so many generations of coder who learned vi from someone who > already didn't know vi. > > > You will note that Google's new keyboard commands are vi commands. > There is a reason for this. > Google... has keyboard commands? :wq , :i, :q

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Dave Booth
On 10/20/2010 18:40, Ponzu wrote: > Alas, so many generations of coder who learned vi from someone who > already didn't know vi. > > You will note that Google's new keyboard commands are vi commands. > There is a reason for this. > same reason that most chat apps commands are IRC commands :) /m

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Ponzu
Alas, so many generations of coder who learned vi from someone who already didn't know vi. You will note that Google's new keyboard commands are vi commands. There is a reason for this. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Altair Sythos wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:31 -0700 > Ricky wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-406: Conditional use of FMOD is not correct, breaks open source build (was: Latest build broken on Mac)

2010-10-20 Thread Ponzu
Boroondas, my guru! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > On 10/21/2010 12:43 AM, Ponzu wrote: > > ...or maybe it is just me. I used hg bisect to find the " last good > build", (see bottom of this email) Maybe I need to download new FMOD or > something. > > ./develop.py

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread malachi
I didn't mean add something that would allow editing in an external program. It is bad enough on older machines to run SL alone. and opening multiple programs is not enough. Perhaps tool tips are a bit out of the way i agree with others that the tooltip can sometimes be annoying. but instea

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Sythos
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:07:31 -0700 Ricky wrote: > lol... That comment reminds me of this (tongue-in-cheek,) graphic > representing the learning curves for a variety of common editors: > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/steverowe/archive/2004/11/17/code-editor-learning-curves.aspx damn awaked my wife laug

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Ricky
lol... That comment reminds me of this (tongue-in-cheek,) graphic representing the learning curves for a variety of common editors: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/steverowe/archive/2004/11/17/code-editor-learning-curves.aspx vi indeed... I'm a pico guy myself, but I'll stoop to using Programmer's Notepa

[opensource-dev] STORM-406: Conditional use of FMOD is not correct, breaks open source build (was: Latest build broken on Mac)

2010-10-20 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 10/21/2010 12:43 AM, Ponzu wrote: > ...or maybe it is just me. I used hg bisect to find the " last good > build", (see bottom of this email) Maybe I need to download new FMOD > or something. > > ./develop.py dies like this... > > [...] > RuntimeError: Cannot fetch: > install-packages.lindenla

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Brandon Husbands
I will submit my external editor patch to snow storm On Oct 20, 2010 5:39 PM, "Ponzu" wrote: Make the script editor use vi. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ricky wrote: > > It used to stay up until cli... ___ Policies and (un)subscribe informati

[opensource-dev] Latest build broken on Mac

2010-10-20 Thread Ponzu
...or maybe it is just me. I used hg bisect to find the " last good build", (see bottom of this email) Maybe I need to download new FMOD or something. ./develop.py dies like this... Running 'cmake -G \'Xcode\' -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=RELWITHDEBINFO -DSTANDALONE:BOOL=OFF -DUNATTENDED:BOOL=OFF

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Ponzu
Make the script editor use vi. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Ricky wrote: > It used to stay up until clicked on or until certain characters were > typed... Got in the the way at times, but was quite useful. > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, SuezanneC Baskerville > wrote: > > I'd be ple

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Ricky
It used to stay up until clicked on or until certain characters were typed... Got in the the way at times, but was quite useful. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, SuezanneC Baskerville wrote: > I'd be pleased if the popup tip remained visible somewhere. My short term > memory is bad, if there are

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Frans
I have the same problem as Suezanne. When I use the popup is usually for something longwinded and frequently have to make the popup appear several times. If the popup would appear automatically and I could hit tab,space or enter to have it auto complete that would be perfect. Frans On Thu, Oct 21

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread SuezanneC Baskerville
I'd be pleased if the popup tip remained visible somewhere. My short term memory is bad, if there are many parameters I have to make the popup appear more than once. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Ricky wrote: > I think the idea here is to have the popup capable of doing > auto-completion. Th

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Ricky
I think the idea here is to have the popup capable of doing auto-completion. This would save a load of time, as well as make it easier to script, IMHO. An alternative would be to expand the usefulness of the code insert dropdown by having it add the parens and properties for events and functions

Re: [opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread Dave Booth
On 10/20/2010 13:20, malachi wrote: > Of all the developers who are working on the client someone has to be > smart enough to implement this. > > For you windows developers who are using Visual Studio, When you type a > function name and get to the ( point of the function it pops a tip up > telling

Re: [opensource-dev] Tools of the trade.

2010-10-20 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
We've been having this discussion internally for some time. There's a lot of friction because a) we have to update lots of developers, and b) we have to rebuild all the libraries and distribute them internally. We've been working on a tool called autobuild which will automate this process; it's

Re: [opensource-dev] Project-MESH viewer

2010-10-20 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
So our old version of full-screen antialiasing (FSAA) was causing crashes. We have made changes to the supporting infrastructure for stability; these changes meant that some machines that used to do FSAA no longer could. We had a bug under windows that was causing the new mechanism to break. We

[opensource-dev] Enhanced Script Editor Request

2010-10-20 Thread malachi
Of all the developers who are working on the client someone has to be smart enough to implement this. For you windows developers who are using Visual Studio, When you type a function name and get to the ( point of the function it pops a tip up telling you what is needed to complete this func

Re: [opensource-dev] Fermi Viewer

2010-10-20 Thread Daniel Smith
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:29 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2010-10-18, at 12:08, Daniel Smith wrote: > > would be better all around.. for the community to say .. hold up.. how to > merge the best of 1.x and 2.x > > We already have that. It's called 1.x. { "remarkAnswer" : "hee hee - but

Re: [opensource-dev] FW: STORM-255 Project Build posted

2010-10-20 Thread Ricky
I do believe WoldPup was pointing out a typo: thrid vs third... Ricky Cron Stardust On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:40 AM, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > Third Party Viewer’s would be: > > > > Pheniox > > Kristine’s > > Imprudence > > > > Basically any viewer that do not say SecondLife. > > > > From: Rober

Re: [opensource-dev] FW: STORM-255 Project Build posted

2010-10-20 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
Third Party Viewer's would be: Pheniox Kristine's Imprudence Basically any viewer that do not say SecondLife. From: Robert Martin [mailto:robertl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:43 AM To: WolfPup Lowenhar Cc: OpenSource Mailing List Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] FW

Re: [opensource-dev] FW: STORM-255 Project Build posted

2010-10-20 Thread Robert Martin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:56 AM, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > Thank you Oz for doing that. > > > > Fellow OS dev’s please let me know of any changes that might be need. And > also translations would be helpful as well. > > err a bit of a doc bug "Both Linden Lab and Thrid Party Viewers (TPV) may post

[opensource-dev] FW: STORM-255 Project Build posted

2010-10-20 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
Thank you Oz for doing that. Fellow OS dev's please let me know of any changes that might be need. And also translations would be helpful as well. From: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) [mailto:o...@lindenlab.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:46 PM To: Esbee Linden (Sarah Hutchinson); Wol

[opensource-dev] Esbee's office hours canceled today.

2010-10-20 Thread Sarah (Esbee) Hutchinson
I'll be out of the office this morning, so my office hours will be canceled for this week. We'll resume next week! Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the polic

Re: [opensource-dev] Stuff I'd like to see in the coming sprint

2010-10-20 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-10-19, at 09:05, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > Heya > > Sprint planning meeting is later today, so I thought it'd be good to list > some issues that I think should be tackled soon: > Low hanging fruits https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-17011

Re: [opensource-dev] Fermi Viewer

2010-10-20 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2010-10-18, at 12:08, Daniel Smith wrote: > would be better all around.. for the community to say .. hold up.. how to > merge the best of 1.x and 2.x We already have that. It's called 1.x. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: ht

Re: [opensource-dev] Project-MESH viewer

2010-10-20 Thread Trilo Byte
Big fail there, Oz. None of the machines I've tested on have working anti-aliasing (on the Mac client), either in the subsequent developer snapshots or the official release you guys let get out the door. TriloByte On Oct 16, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-10-15