Re: [Openstack] How to deploy OpenStack on thousands of nodes?

I'd suggest to have a look at the openstack Operations Guide which contains information on scaling approaches (http://docs.openstack.org/ops/) In particular, the use of cells is a good way to build large scale infrastructures (see http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/scaling.htm

Re: [Openstack] Trove implementation in Openstack with Red Hat 6

Michael, It is desirable that a project, such as Trove, in incubation would be able to install and run on Redhat derived systems as well as Ubuntu/Debian. With the combination of packstack/RDO, RedHat based deployment is becoming a lot easier and I would hope that this is considered to attract

Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] support for older versions of ceilometer

a key component of production, large scale clouds. Tim From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 22:35 To: Tim Bell Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] support for older versions of ceilometer >From what I underst

Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] support for older versions of ceilometer

Doug, Can you advise on what the plan/policy will be for Havana ? - Will I be able to run Havana core components such as Nova with Grizzly ceilometer ? - Will I be able to run Havana ceilometer with Grizzly core components (with reduced functionality compared to the

[Openstack] Dual network connections on hypervisor

I have a hypervisor running KVM with two network interfaces to two independent networks. I could not find any documentation on how to configure a set up such as this so the guests could also be configured with IPs on the two networks. Any pointers ? Tim smime.p7s Description:

Re: [Openstack] Share Glance between cells or regions

+2 I feel there is a difference between - Is it possible ? - Is it a good approach for use case X ? Multi-site varies hugely depending on whether the aim is sharing the work or recovery scenarios. Defining a good model for multi-site, resilient deployments and

[Openstack] Checkpoint VM and roll back

I'd like to be able to 1. checkpoint a running virtual machine 2. run a test 3. rollback to the checkpoint from step 1 Has anyone had experience of doing this using OpenStack (such as with snapshots) ? Tim smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: [Openstack] List of Cinder compatible devices

a driver from the list in the event of failing to keep up with additional functionality (but this is a different question to the documentation). Tim From: Blair Bethwaite [mailto:blair.bethwa...@gmail.com] Sent: 16 April 2013 04:51 To: John Griffith; Tim Bell Cc: openstack

Re: [Openstack] Project quotas on multi-region

The Boson project was looking at this sort of problem (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Boson). There is a session at the summit to review this and other activities since it appears quotas are appearing in many projects and there is a clear need for multi-cell and quota delegation (i.e. domai

[Openstack] Name restrictions and other checks

We have some additional checks on the names of instances such as - Maximum length (to be compatible with Active Directory) - Restrict characters which are usable Is there a configurable set of parameters for these checks (or a user exit to define a functional check) ?

[Openstack] Unauthenticated service probe for OpenStack components

Is there a method to do a basic service status check for OpenStack components ? I'd like to able to validate that the daemons are able to handle an unauthenticated request from a monitoring script. This is somewhat equivalent to a network level ping or nagios probe, i.e. validate that there

Re: [Openstack] [Swift]A design draft of Storage Quota

We also feel an integrated approach such as Boson is the way forward for quota rather than each project have its own (and potentially differing) implementations on areas such as delegation. Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net > [mailt

[Openstack] List of Cinder compatible devices

Is there a list of devices which are currently compatible with cinder and their relative functionality ? Looking through the source code, there are EMC, IBM, NetApp, Nexenta but it is not clear which models are supported or if there are other products also. A functionality matrix (like t

Re: [Openstack] Name

There is also Robin Hood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_hood) … “steal from the rich and give to the poor”… Personally, Havana got my vote…. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf

Re: [Openstack] Windows instance licensing in OpenStack

Sounds like activation key management would be a great feature for the Windows cloud-init so this could be passed in as meta data. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Balamurugan V G

Re: [Openstack] using Win AD authentication as keystone backend

We run Active Directory with Keystone at CERN. The configuration is documented by Jose in the Wiki at http://wiki.openstack.org/HowtoIntegrateKeystonewithAD. Not sure if all the patches made it into Folsom though. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mai

Re: [Openstack] user committee points to review

A few of you have had trouble reading the document. The updated link is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yD8TfqUik2dt5xo_jMVHMl7tw9oIJnEndLK8YqET oyo/edit If you can't read it, please send me a note and I'll share it. Tim From: Tim Bell Sent: 09 January 2013 09:52

Re: [Openstack] Migrate Instance to another Tenant ID in the same environment

Updating the DB for the project would be one step but there are other potential things to consider such as attached volumes. Building up the set of things that need to be done in the doc would be useful but eventually we need to get to an openstack command that can do this (or do the equivalent c

Re: [Openstack] Calling all user group and meetup organizers

Sean, Is the aim to provide co-ordination for the OpenStack user groups worldwide ? Ryan, JC and I have been putting together the structure for the OpenStack user committee (as described on the foundation list at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2012-December/001289.html).

Re: [Openstack] How to deploy openstack automatically in your env.

Lei, At CERN, we run our RHEL-based OpenStack instance with the puppetlabs modules. They work very well and simplify the multi-node deployments. We've got around 200 hypervisors deployed with this method. Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpa

Re: [Openstack] Is there any way to migrate the Instance between the projects/tenants?

We were also interested in this function but could not find an easy way to do it. The operation becomes more complex when there are attached volumes and potentially different permissions between the two projects. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto

Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] Monitoring physical devices

There is a use case for base metal hardware metering in the private cloud where the user allocated the machine does not have root access to kill the metering. Being able to create a single metering infrastructure for the entire private cloud, virtual or bare-metal allocation, is a need techni

Re: [Openstack] Distributed configuration database

Puppet is great for this sort of thing. There are various ways of querying parameters and making choices about them. A typical example would be where you want to adjust a configuration parameter due to memory configuration or network. Writing the puppet configuration is not difficult... Puppetlab

Re: [Openstack] Is there any method to Activate Windows during Launch a new Instance?

Have you had a look at cloud-init ? Tim - Reply message - From: "Ray Sun" To: "openstack" Subject: [Openstack] Is there any method to Activate Windows during Launch a new Instance? Date: Sat, Nov 3, 2012 03:04 I create a windows 7 image(without activate) and upload to glance, and I

Re: [Openstack] Quotas in folsom

+1 for Boson ... this is a key area for CERN too. When you have a fixed budget and no credit cards, quota management is a strong requirement! Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net > [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launc

Re: [Openstack] Use of MAC addresses in Openstack VMs

If we purchase an OUI, is there a mechanism within Quantum to only allocate Mac addresses with that prefix ? Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Salvatore Orlando Sent: 20 October 20

Re: [Openstack] File Injection through Horizon

ecial scripts to run during initialization to retrieve and install ssh keys and to let the user run various scripts. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Blair Bethwaite [mailto:blair.bethwa...@gmail.com] > Sent: 03 October 2012 14:39 > To: Kiall Mac Innes > Cc: Tim Bell; openstack

Re: [Openstack] File Injection through Horizon

Cloud-init is also available on RHEL systems too. We're using it extensively to contextualise VMs on Scientific Linux. We've even tried a windows version but this is not as functional. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=ce

Re: [Openstack] CY12-Q3 Community Analysis — OpenStack vs OpenNebula vs Eucalyptus vs CloudStack

Were the developer and operator lists included in your analysis ? - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/ - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/ Full set is at http://wiki.openstack.org/MailingLists Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack and HyperV

I am not sure if I understand your question but Microsoft are making substantial contributions towards OpenStack such as the work on Hyper-V. The meeting logs are http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/dev/17175. Peter Pouliot could give more details. Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.be

Re: [Openstack] [ceilometer] Bare metal and Metering

Reading through the post from Mirantis on bare metal support on OpenStack (http://www.mirantis.com/blog/bare-metal-provisioning-with-openstack-cloud/) , I was wondering how this would interact with the metering work in ceilometer. Any ideas? Tim smime.p7s Description: S/MIME crypto

Re: [Openstack] Quantum -. Multi-Plugin and support for provisioning of other devices.

There has been some load balancing discussion and more is due at the summit. The various current activities are summarised in http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/LBaaS Can you explain what you mean by storage devices with respect to Quantum ? The storage activities are underway as part of Cind

Re: [Openstack] Quantum PTL election - please check Voters list

Can we integrate the registration process for the CLA with that of the membership ? There is likely to be some additional questions such as affiliation and interest in OpenStack, so it cannot be automatic but I would hope that most contributors to the code base would also be interested in other a

Re: [Openstack] Migration

I think a new release should contains details of how to do the upgrade (rather than discovering as we try it) I should aim that the deliverables for each of the projects in a new version includes in the release notes: A. dependencies (i.e. does glance folsom need to talk to horizon folsom or can

Re: [Openstack] A plea from an OpenStack user

We should not also forget the documentation for the migration process itself. We need to have stable documentation (such as perform software installation, run upgrade script and restart service) while allowing post-release migration bugs to be resolved (when migration problems are found in the fie

Re: [Openstack] User Friendly Development

production deployment experience. I'm happy to help to consolidate the current pain points. We should gather the data for both Diablo and Essex based deployments and it may well be that many of them are addressed in Folsom (but we should check to be sure). Tim Bell CERN On 27 Jul

Re: [Openstack] Identity API v3 - Why allow multi-tenant users?

l use case. My question is if the user id name space is per domain or per IaaS instance ? I suspect this has significant implications in areas such as Horizon login and API compatibility. Tim From: Joseph Heck [mailto:he...@me.com] Sent: 18 July 2012 20:17 To: Tim Bell Cc: Adam Young;

Re: [Openstack] Identity API v3 - Why allow multi-tenant users?

6 AM, Matt Joyce wrote: I could see service users and security / operations teams having a need to span many domains. -Matt On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Tim Bell wrote: I thought that the v3 API supports domains as a group of tenants which would make the question rather different.

Re: [Openstack] Identity API v3 - Why allow multi-tenant users?

I thought that the v3 API supports domains as a group of tenants which would make the question rather different. Thus, I guess the question is A. Should there be users in multiple tenants in a single domain ? B. Should there be users in multiple domains ? There are clear

Re: [Openstack] [Keystone] Quotas: LDAP Help

+1 The corporate LDAP should be read-only for a source of user, roles and attributes. Updating the corporate LDAP is not an option in many environments which can significantly benefit from the structured directory information available. Thus, at minimum, allow a r/o LDAP and local DB store for an

Re: [Openstack] [nova] [cinder] Nova-volume vs. Cinder in Folsom

Vish, How would the Nova migration from Essex to Folsom take place ? I'm wondering how we can validate Folsom without risking an existing Essex installation via some sort of clone/migrate operation. What is your assessment of the risk that Cinder is less stable than Nova volume ? Option 1 would

Re: [Openstack] [HPC] Openstack HPC telecon

Would it be possible a bit earlier ? This would be 10pm in Europe so it would limit the participation. Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net > [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf > Of Narayan Desai >

Re: [Openstack] Openstack and Google Compute Engine

HPC is often used as a general term but it is actually many different facets depending on the computing model. CERN is at the centre of a server grid of 100,000s of servers called WLCG (http://wlcg.web.cern.ch) for analyzing the data from the Large Hadron Collider. The servers are located at o

Re: [Openstack] CY12-Q2 Community Analysis — OpenStack vs OpenNebula vs Eucalyptus vs CloudStack

The following may also be worth scanning: - http://forums.openstack.org/ - Mailing lists on http://wiki.openstack.org/MailingLists (although quite a few of them are quiet so would not affect the numbers much) Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.laun

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] Agent configuration mechanism

With the Chef and Puppet configurators, I think we cover a large share of the community. I’d suggest that once the formats of the configuration files are settled, we get the associated supporters in Chef-land and Puppet-land to add these to their recipes along with the other folsom changes….

Re: [Openstack] Adding panel to a dashboard - Horizon

Sounds like the folsom solution is the right way to go.. If the backend can do it, offer it.. Tim From: Tres Henry [mailto:t...@treshenry.net] Sent: 04 June 2012 22:27 To: Tim Bell Cc: Guillermo Alvarado; openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Adding panel to a

Re: [Openstack] Adding panel to a dashboard - Horizon

] Sent: 04 June 2012 21:50 To: Tim Bell Cc: Guillermo Alvarado; openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Adding panel to a dashboard - Horizon Keystone doesn't currently support querying for capabilities (i.e. what is the Keystone auth backend) so Horizon defines a di

Re: [Openstack] Adding panel to a dashboard - Horizon

BTW, isn't the lack of option for a dashboard user to change their own password considered as a missing functionality ? Personally, if it was there, I'd like to turn it off (since we aim to use Active Directory/LDAP) but for the standalone case, this would seem a reasonable request. Tim

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack][Nova] deference between live-migration and migrate

I would favour a field for the type of migration which allows future expansion. we've already got migrate, live migrate and block migrate but hypervisors may have further different flavours too in the future and the API should support the full set of options while encouraging convergence when th

Re: [Openstack] Openstack with CentOS 6.2

If you’re using puppet for configuration management, we would strongly recommend the puppetlabs openstack modules. They handle all the distribution differences too... They're working great for us with Scientific Linux so CentOS should work well too... Tim CERN > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: [Openstack] Identity API v3 - Why allow multi-tenant users?

-tenant per user. Correct accounting is critical. This does require extra code but it is relevant given the use cases. Tim Bell CERN From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Caitlin Bestler

Re: [Openstack] Deployments in Scientific Environments

CERN is more of a high throughput computing environment rather than a high performance site. Although we do multi-core, our programs are not the large scale floating point programs of some other sciences, so GPUs etc. are not a significant gain for us. CERN is currently targeting a pre-production

Re: [Openstack] [Keystone] PKI

Fully agreed. Academic and Research sites have extensive X.509 infrastructure that we would not wish to duplicate. Are you only looking at user certificates or are host certificates in the scope too ? Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bou

Re: [Openstack] i18n of log message

I would also vote for an application prefix and error number for easy searching. It is also great when you have to write the problem determination guides. Tim -Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@li

Re: [Openstack] Open Cloud Computing Interface Blueprint Implementation

Andy, Thanks for this work. OCCI is an interesting and open option as the world moves towards federated clouds. I hope that this will continue the momentum towards an open API which can address multiple backend IaaS solutions transparently. Tim Bell CERN From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell

Re: [Openstack] [Ops] OpenStack and Operations: Input from the Wild

2 05:42 To: Tim Bell Cc: David Kranz; Andrew Clay Shafer; openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org; Duncan McGreggor; openstack Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Ops] OpenStack and Operations: Input from the Wild Hi Tim, Could you elaborate more on 'performance metrics'? Like what kind of metri

Re: [Openstack] [Ops] OpenStack and Operations: Input from the Wild

Splitting monitoring into 1. Gathering of metrics (availability, performance) and reporting in a standard fashion should be part of OpenStack. 2. Best practice sensors should sample the metrics and provide alarms for issues which could cause service impacts. Posting of these al

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack immaturity

sites will become factors in keeping the early adopters enthusiastic. These are the user stories that will drive the next wave of OpenStack growth as much as expanding the feature set. Tim Bell CERN From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces

Re: [Openstack] "nova zone" and "availability_zone"

It would be useful if there was a glossary of terms related to Openstack. It is easy to get confused as many words are overloaded or slightly different between different parts of Openstack. There is also the page on identity at

Re: [Openstack] availability/performance sensors/probes

This does bring up a more generic problem of sharing the availability/performance code for all of the OpenStack components. At the design summit, this was proposed as one of the example use cases of the OpenStack community forge (I forget the exact name) but it was intended as a place for sharing

Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE

Fully agree with the prefix for the cell... there should be storage-cells and compute-cells with different goals in terms of data locality and availability, zone has become too overloaded... Tim > -Original Message- > From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net > [mailto

Re: [Openstack] [Nova] Essex dead wood cutting

-Microsoft hypervisor ? - Are there other sites who are affected by this proposal who would be willing to invest effort to maintain the Hyper-V support ? Tim Bell CERN -Original Message- From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern

Re: [Openstack] nova/puppet blueprint, and some questions

Looks interesting. I wonder if it can be made more generic so that it would satisfy a similar set of requirements for Chef (or whatever else comes along). I would suspect that the general requirements for tables etc. are not puppet specific, although the implementations may vary. I would hope f

Re: [Openstack] Swift client tool

A Dropbox like 'sync' function would be very interesting.. does anyone know one which is compatible with OpenStack Swift ? Tim From: openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern...@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Kuo Hugo Sent: 19 December

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

The stable team with Duncan's additions would fully address my concerns. Tim ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launc

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

We need more than 'just' packaging it is using the testing, documentation and above all care to produce *and* maintain a stable release that production sites can rely on for 6-12 months and know that others are relying on it too. Who is going to make the judgement that a bug fix to the late

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

Thierry, I'm not clear on who will be maintaining the stable/diablo branch. The people such as EPEL for RedHat systems need to have something with the appropriate bug fixes back ported. There are an increasing number of sites looking to deploy in production and cannot follow the latest deve

Re: [Openstack] HPC with Openstack?

At CERN, we are also faced with similar thoughts as we look to the cloud on how to match the VM creation performance (typically O(minutes)) with the required batch job system rates for a single program (O(sub-second)). Data locality to aim that the job runs close to the source data makes this mo

Re: [Openstack] Openstack Packaging

We would be very interested to know where we can get a recent, stable Diablo++ release for RHEL 6. We appreciate the speed of development for Essex but there is also a need for a pre-tested base on Diablo+fixes stable functionality for the potential production users to integrate to. Tim Bell

Re: [Openstack] openstack-satellite

Let's not raise the bar too high for Satellite The points mentioned (CI, QA, etc.) should be clearly documented with a y/n for the projects to aid selection but I would much rather try out a non-CI tool in the directory than have to write it all myself from scratch. Ultimately, the aim of

Re: [Openstack] API Spec

. - Reply message - From: "George Reese" To: "Tim Bell" Cc: "openstack@lists.launchpad.net" Subject: [Openstack] API Spec Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 20:47 A cloud platform simply isn't functional without an API. It is a core requirement. No API, no cloud.

Re: [Openstack] API Spec

f the underlying functionality should be discussed/planned in the longer term but let's get Diablo out and deployable first. Tim Bell CERN ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscri

Re: [Openstack] Thinking about Backups/Snapshots in Nova Volume

The terms for snapshot and backup seem completely reasonable. >From a server consolidation/disaster recovery point of view, the dream would >be to be able to do backup and snapshot mirroring, almost like an Oracle >dataguard, to a remote site. >From my understanding of the upcoming Swift conta

Re: [Openstack] Thinking about Backups/Snapshots in Nova Volume

er would be very useful for these disaster recovery scenarios. Tim Bell CERN ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.la

Re: [Openstack] Cross-zone instance identifiers in EC2 API - Is it worth the effort?

other interfaces as required. Tim Bell CERN ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Openstack] Queue Service, next steps

situation, whereas using Erlang may create some more difficulty further down the line. Anything that makes porting/rebuilding more difficult needs to be carefully thought through. Tim Bell CERN ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to