Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 20:54 -0400, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Thanks for the reply, makes sense. Just to make sure I understand things, it sounds like Nova does not currently query Keystone for endpoints and continues to rely on explicit configuration (or to rephrase your answer, the reason

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Nathanael Burton
What's the point of a service catalog (list of endpoints) if we don't want to use it?! Looking up endpoints should be a cacheable request and in the grand scheme of things -- low impact. Nate On Jun 18, 2012 10:13 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-15 at

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 10:18 -0400, Nathanael Burton wrote: What's the point of a service catalog (list of endpoints) if we don't want to use it?! Looking up endpoints should be a cacheable request and in the grand scheme of things -- low impact. We do use the service catalog, quite

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
I don't see nova-network running... And in fact, that seems to have been at the root of a number of problems. Thanks! With some work over the weekend I'm now successfully booting instances with networking using the Flat network manager. Great. It wasn't clear from the documentation that

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
Thus, I suspect that nova may not even use the Keystone endpoints... That sounds crazy to me, but I just got here. That is, why go to the effort to develop an endpoint registration service and then decide not to use it? Given the asynchronous, distributed nature of OpenStack, an endpoint

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 10:41 -0400, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: That sounds crazy to me, but I just got here. That is, why go to the effort to develop an endpoint registration service and then decide not to use it? Given the asynchronous, distributed nature of OpenStack, an endpoint directory

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/18/2012 10:41 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: Thus, I suspect that nova may not even use the Keystone endpoints... That sounds crazy to me, but I just got here. That is, why go to the effort to develop an endpoint registration service and then decide not to use it? Given the

[Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
Howdy all, I've spent the past few days slogging through the initial steps of getting OpenStack and running and I seem to have hit a wall. If this isn't the right list for this question, please feel free to direct me elsewhere. I have two systems running the OpenStack components right now. The

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
Well, apologies for the stupid subject line. In the interests of sewing as much confusion as possible, here's the question that was supposed to go along with that subject: nova.conf appears to sport several configuration options related to glance, including: - glance_host - glance_port -

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Gabe Westmaas
Hey Lars, Sadly I don't have much in the way of a solution for you, but I do have some suggestions. Comments inline. On 6/15/12 4:17 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman l...@seas.harvard.edu wrote: Howdy all, I've spent the past few days slogging through the initial steps of getting OpenStack and

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
I'm used to using rabbit, but I did notice you didn't include a nova-scheduler in your list above... There is a nova-scheduler service running on the controller: Binary Host Zone Status State Updated_At nova-cert

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
I don't really know anything about AMQ or how OpenStack utilizes the message broker. Are there any commands I can run that would exercise the message broker and confirm whether or not it is working correctly? For what it's worth: qpid provies a test suite (qpid-python-test that appears to

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Lars - Sounds like you're really looking for a conceptual understanding and I like that! Keystone does maintain the service catalog, and the Image service (glance) needs specific entries. See http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/keystone-concepts.html. I

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 16:26 -0400, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: nova.conf appears to sport several configuration options related to glance, including: - glance_host - glance_port - glance_api_servers These seem suspiciously similar. Indeed. Do they do the same thing? Yes, they do.

Re: [Openstack] glance_api_servers vs. glance_host vs. keystone?

2012-06-15 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
The reason these options have not gone away is probably a combination of supporting non-Keystone authentication and general programmer laziness… Kevin, Thanks for the reply, makes sense. Just to make sure I understand things, it sounds like Nova does not currently query Keystone for endpoints