Re: [openstack-dev] [octavia] Joining Neutron under the big tent

2015-05-01 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Good stuff. Thanks everyone for your hard work on getting Octavia to this point! Cheers, --Jorge From: Brandon Logan mailto:brandon.lo...@rackspace.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] adding lbaas core

2015-04-21 Thread Jorge Miramontes
I want to be friends with Phil :(. Congrats! Cheers, --Jorge On 4/21/15, 11:57 AM, "Brandon Logan" wrote: >Welcome Phil! > >From: Doug Wiegley >Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:54 AM >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >S

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Object statuses

2015-01-23 Thread Jorge Miramontes
The example you put implicitly assigns the status tree to a load balancer. Is sharing only allowed for sub resources? Or can sub resources be shared across multiple load balancers? If that is the case then I suspect that statuses may be exposed in many different places correct? Cheers, --Jorge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-11-05 Thread Jorge Miramontes
on demand to a >place the user can access. Thanks, German From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 8:20 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requiremen

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-11-04 Thread Jorge Miramontes
ded like we were in disagreement on the IRC. I am not sure why but it sounded like you were talking about something else when you were talking about the real time processing. If we are just taking about moving the logs to your Hadoop cluster or any backedn a scalable way we agree. Susanne O

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-28 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Thanks for the reply Angus, DDoS attacks are definitely a concern we are trying to address here. My assumptions are based on a solution that is engineered for this type of thing. Are you more concerned with network I/O during a DoS attack or storing the logs? Under the idea I had, I wanted to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-27 Thread Jorge Miramontes
d privacy issue. What are your thoughts on >logging those? > >Thanks, >German > >-Original Message- >From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:30 PM >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-23 Thread Jorge Miramontes
dle the IO coming from logging. Some operators >might choose to > hook up very cheap and non performing disks which might not be able to >deal with the log traffic. So I would suggest that there is some rate >limiting on the log output to help with that. > > >Thanks, >German

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-22 Thread Jorge Miramontes
en connections' or something.) One other thing: If there's a chance we'll be storing logs on the amphorae themselves, then we need to have log rotation as part of the configuration here. It would be silly to have an amphora failure just because its ephemeral disk fills up, eh. St

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS][Octavia] Usage Requirements

2014-10-15 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Octavia folks! First off, yes, I'm still alive and kicking. :) I,d like to start a conversation on usage requirements and have a few suggestions. I advocate that, since we will be using TCP and HTTP/HTTPS based protocols, we inherently enable connection logging for load balancers for several

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] VM/Container Naming Issue

2014-09-05 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey guys, I just noticed that "Amphora" won the vote. I have several issues with this. 1) Amphora wasn't in the first list of items to vote on. I'm confused as to how it ended up in the "final" round. The fact that it did makes me feel like the first round of votes were totally disregarded. 2) T

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Agenda

2014-08-20 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is you friendly reminder to provide any agenda items for tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting. Please add them to the agenda wiki ==> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Agenda. Cheers, --Jorge ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list O

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Agenda

2014-08-13 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is you friendly reminder to provide any agenda items for tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting. Please add them to the agenda wiki ==> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Agenda. The agenda currently has these items: * Review the work items from the Hackathon and ch

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Agenda

2014-08-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is you friendly reminder to provide any agenda items for tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting. Please add them to the agenda wiki ==> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Agenda. The agenda currently has these items: * Review Updates Cheers, --Jorge P.S. Also, ple

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Agenda

2014-07-30 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is you friendly reminder to provide any agenda items for tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting. The agenda currently has these items: * Review Updates * Octavia Work Cheers, --Jorge P.S. Please don't forget to update the weekly standup ==> https://etherpad.openstack.org/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Status and Expectations for Juno

2014-07-28 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Doug, In terms of taking a step backward from a user perspective I'm fine with making v1 the default. I think there was always the notion of supporting what v1 currently offers by making a config change. Thus, Horizon should still have all the support it had in Icehouse. I am a little worried

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Agenda

2014-07-23 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is you friendly reminder to provide any agenda items for tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting. The agenda currently has two items: * Review Updates * TLS work division Cheers, --Jorge P.S. Please don't forget to update the weekly standup ==> https://etherpad.openstack.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Milestone and Due Dates

2014-07-21 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Kyle, I've viewed that link many times but it mentions nothing about 7-20 being Spec approval deadline. Am I missing something? Cheers, --Jorge On 7/18/14 9:52 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jorge Miramontes > wrote: >> Hey Kyl

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Milestone and Due Dates

2014-07-18 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Kyle (and anyone else that may know the answers to my questions), There are several blueprints that don't have Juno milestones attached to them and was wondering if we could assign them so the broader community is aware of the work the LBaaS folks are working on. These are the blueprints tha

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly IRC Meeting Agenda

2014-07-09 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hi LBaaS folks, This is your weekly friendly reminder to give me agenda items for tomorrow's meeting. Also please update the weekly standup document when you get a chance! Thanks! Current agenda items: * Paris summit talks (Susanne) * Reviews Cheers, --Jorge __

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Status of entities that do not exist in a driver backend

2014-07-07 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Mark, To add, one reason we have a DELETED status at Rackspace is that certain sub-resources are still relevant to our customers. For example, we have a usage sub-resource which reveals usage records for the load balancer. To illustrate, a user issues a DELETE on /loadbalancers/ but can still

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Layer7 Switching - L7 Rule - comapre_type values

2014-07-03 Thread Jorge Miramontes
rivers > "hostage" For some time there was a policy (openstack-wide) that public API should have a free open source implementation. In this sense open source driver may hold other drivers as "hostages". Eugene. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Jorge Miramontes mailto

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Status of entities that do not exist in a driver backend

2014-07-03 Thread Jorge Miramontes
+1 to QUEUED status. For entities that have the concept of being attached/detached why not have a 'DETACHED' status to indicate that the entity is not provisioned at all (i.e. The config is just stored in the DB). When it is attached during provisioning then we can set it to 'ACTIVE' or any of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Which entities need status

2014-07-03 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey German, We have similar statuses. I have been wanting to add a 'QUEUED' status however. The reason is that we currently use 'BUILD' which indicates active provisioning when in reality it is actually queued first and then provisioned. Thus, there are potential issues when trying to determine av

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Layer7 Switching - L7 Rule - comapre_type values

2014-07-03 Thread Jorge Miramontes
I agree. Also, since we are planning on having two different API versions run in parallel the only driver that needs to be worked on initially is the reference implementation. I'm guessing we will have two reference implementations, one for v1 and one for v2. The v2 implementation currently see

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Agenda for weekly IRC meeting

2014-07-02 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks! Please send me any agenda items you would like discussed tomorrow so I can organize the meeting. And as usual, please update the weekly standup etherpad. Everything should be organized on the main wiki page now ==> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS :) Cheers, --Jor

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly Standup

2014-06-25 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey LBaaS folks, This is your friendly reminder to update the weekly standup etherpad so that everyone is aware of what everyone is working on. Here is the link ==> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-lbaas-weekly-standup. Thanks! Cheers, --Jorge __

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Consolidated metrics proposal

2014-06-25 Thread Jorge Miramontes
istics and billing” thread? Thank you! Andres From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:35 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Consolidated metrics proposal Hey Andres,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Consolidated metrics proposal

2014-06-12 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Andres, In my experience with usage gathering consolidating statistics at the root layer is usually a bad idea. The reason is that you lose potentially useful information once you consolidate data. When it comes to troubleshooting issues (such as billing) this lost information can cause pro

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly Standup Trial

2014-06-11 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Neutron LBaaS folks! I created the following etherpad in an effort to mitigate the visibility issue some of us have been trying to address. Please update it before tomorrow's weekly IRC meeting if possible so that the community is aware of what every team is currently engaged on. This will

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-09 Thread Jorge Miramontes
telling him things changed (and we helpfully updated all affected >load balancers) -- which isn't as immediate as #2. > >If we implement an "auto-update flag" for #1 we can have both. User's who >like #2 juts hit the flag. Then the discussion changes to what we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
ling List (not for usage questions) >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS >Integration Ideas > >+1 for option 2. > >In addition as an additional safeguard, the LBaaS service could check >with Barbican when failing to use an existing secret to see if the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] dealing with M:N relashionships for Pools and Listeners

2014-06-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
A couple of questions have come to mind since reading this thread: 1) We are assuming that load balancers can only operate on one update at a time correct? I.E. We are not allowing multiple updates to occur concurrently? Whatever the case on this I advocate that we do NOT allow concurrent modifica

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas

2014-06-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey everyone, Per our IRC discussion yesterday I'd like to continue the discussion on how Barbican and Neutron LBaaS will interact. There are currently two ideas in play and both will work. If you have another idea please free to add it so that we may evaluate all the options relative to each othe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements around statistics and billing

2014-06-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Stephen, What we really care about are the following: - Inbound bandwidth (bytes) - Outbound bandwidth (bytes) - "Instance" Uptime (requires create/delete events) Just to note our current LBaaS implementation at Rackspace keeps track of when features are enabled/disabled. For example, we hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] API proposal review thoughts

2014-05-09 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Sam, our larger customers especially care about affinity since they have many load balancer instances. Their use case usually centers around being re-sellers. Also, if you have a deployment that utilizes several load balancers our customers have created tickets to ensure they are on different ho

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Subteam meeting Thursday, 05/08 14-00 UTC

2014-05-07 Thread Jorge Miramontes
All of our relevant material is in this Google Drive folder ==> https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B_x8_4x6DRLad1NZMjgyVFhqakU Cheers, --Jorge On 5/7/14 1:19 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >Lets go over the Rackspace portion of the API comparison tomorrow >then, and we can cover Stephen's on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]User Stories and sruvey

2014-05-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Okay, makes sense to gather all data now and interpret this later. I'm too jaded for these types of debates right now since the summit is around the corner. Cheers, --Jorge On 5/6/14 3:32 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: >On 05/06/2014 04:22 PM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: >> I think the plan is to releas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]User Stories and sruvey

2014-05-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
e On 5/6/14 1:52 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: >On 05/06/2014 02:42 PM, Jorge Miramontes wrote: >> Sam, >> >> I'm assuming you want one person from each company to answer correct? >> I'm pretty sure people in each organization will vote the sameŠat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]User Stories and sruvey

2014-05-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Sam, I'm assuming you want one person from each company to answer correct? I'm pretty sure people in each organization will vote the same…at least I'd hope! Cheers, --Jorge From: Samuel Bercovici mailto:samu...@radware.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thoughts on current process

2014-05-01 Thread Jorge Miramontes
ck Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thoughts on current process Hi, On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Jorge Miramontes mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com>> wrote: Hey

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]User Stories and sruvey

2014-05-01 Thread Jorge Miramontes
That sounds good to me. The only thing I would caution is that we have prioritized certain requirements (like HA and SSL Termination) and I want to ensure we use the survey to compliment what we have already mutually agreed upon. Thanks for spearheading this! Cheers, --Jorge From: Samuel Berco

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thoughts on current process

2014-05-01 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Eugene, I think there is a misunderstanding on what iterative development means to you and me and I want to make sure we are on the same page. First of all, I'll try not to use the term "duct-taping" even though it's a widely used term in the industry. My main concern is that implementing c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Conforming to Open Stack API style in LBaaS

2014-04-30 Thread Jorge Miramontes
I agree it may be odd, but is that a strong argument? To me, following RESTful style/constructs is the main thing to consider. If people can specify everything in the parent resource then let them (i.e. single call). If they want to specify at a more granular level then let them do that too (i.e

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thoughts on current process

2014-04-30 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Oops! Everywhere I said Samuel I meant Stephen. Sorry you both have SB as you initials so I got confused. :) Cheers, --Jorge On 4/30/14 5:17 PM, "Jorge Miramontes" wrote: >Hey everyone, > >I agree that we need to be preparing for the summit. Using Google docs >mix

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Thoughts on current process

2014-04-30 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey everyone, I agree that we need to be preparing for the summit. Using Google docs mixed with Openstack wiki works for me right now. I need to become more familiar the gerrit process and I agree with Samuel that it is not conducive to "large" design discussions. That being said I'd like to add m

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] SSL re-encryption scenario question

2014-04-18 Thread Jorge Miramontes
+1 for German's use cases. We need SSL re-encryption for decisions the load balancer needs to make at the l7 layer as well. Thanks Clint, for your thorough explanation from a security standpoint. Cheers, --Jorge On 4/18/14 1:38 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: >Excerpts from Stephen Balukoff's messa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hi all, In order to ease confusion I think I might create use case walk-throughs to show how the API would work. There's only been one week to work on this (minus other work) so I haven't had enough time to create them. I'll try to capture most of them in this form over the following week as I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases and web ui screen captures

2014-04-11 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hi Kevin, We are trying to prioritize features based on actual data utilization. If you have some, by all means please add it to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc#gid=0. One reason we are focusing on HTTP(S) and not FTP is that 0.27% of our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Clarification in regards to https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar1FuMFYRhgadDVXZ25NM2NfbGtLTkR0TDFNUWJQUWc#gid=1

2014-04-09 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Answers inlined. Thanks for the questions! They forced me to think about certain features. Cheers, --Jorge From: Samuel Bercovici mailto:samu...@radware.com>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Wednesday, Apr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Load balancing use cases. Data from Operators needed.

2014-04-02 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Thanks Eugene, I added our data onto the requirements page since I was hoping to prioritize requirements based on the operator data that gets provided. We can move it over to the other page if you think that makes sense. See everyone on the weekly meeting tomorrow! Cheers, --Jorge From: Susan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Neutron LBaaS, Libra and "managed services"

2014-03-25 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Susanne, I think it makes sense to group drivers by each LB software. For example, there would be a driver for HAProxy, one for Citrix's Netscalar, one for Riverbed's Stingray, etc. One important aspect about Openstack that I don't want us to forget though is that a tenant should be able to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] addition to requirement wiki

2014-03-25 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Thanks Itsuro, Good requirement since Neutron LBaaS is an asynchronous API. Cheers, --Jorge On 3/24/14 7:27 PM, "Itsuro ODA" wrote: >Hi LBaaS developpers, > >I added 'Status Indication' to requirement Wiki. >It may be independent from object model discussion >but I think this is an item whi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-20 Thread Jorge Miramontes
The use case from our customers has been mostly for database (MySql) load balancing. If the master goes down then they want another master/slave on standby ready to receive traffic. In the simplest case, I think Neutron can achieve this with 2 pools with 1 node each. If pool #1 goes down then po

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-20 Thread Jorge Miramontes
eature. Is this controlling access to the VIP’s IP address or to pool members IP addresses? There is also a Firewall service in Neutron. Could this feature better fit in that service? Agree, it's better to utilize what fwaas has to offer. Eugene. Youcef From: Jorge Miramontes [mailto:jorge.mi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Jorge Miramontes
ther! This will be really useful for LBaaS discussions. I updated the wiki to include L7 rules support and also marking already implemented requirements. Thanks, Oleg On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jorge Miramontes mailto:jorge.miramon...@rackspace.com>> wrote: Hey Neutron LBaaS folks,

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-18 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey Neutron LBaaS folks, Per last week's IRC meeting I have created a preliminary requirements & use case wiki page. I requested adding such a page since there appears to be a lot of new interest in load balancing and feel that we need a structured way to align everyone's interest in the project.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Mini-summit Interest?

2014-03-13 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hey everyone, Now that the thread has had enough time for people to reply it appears that the majority of people that vocalized their opinion are in favor of a mini-summit, preferably to occur in Atlanta days before the Openstack summit. There are concerns however, most notably the concern that

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Mini-summit Interest?

2014-03-06 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Hi everyone, I'd like to gauge everyone's interest in a possible mini-summit for Neturon LBaaS. If enough people are interested I'd be happy to try and set something up. The Designate team just had a productive mini-summit in Austin, TX and it was nice to have face-to-face conversations with pe