Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][tc] Video Meetings - input requested

2016-12-14 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
ecember 14, 2016 at 3:22 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][tc] Video Meetings - input requested On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Ed Leafe wrote: >> On Dec 12, 2016, at

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][tc] Video Meetings - input requested

2016-12-12 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
The issue raised is they violate the 4 opens. From: Michał Jastrzębski Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:09 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][t

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] balancing core team karma and collecting statements from kolla team.

2016-12-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Jeffrey, I think a better balance among the core reviewer teams for the 3 core reviewer teams we have for our 3 deliverables is warranted as you stated. To clarify my position, I am happy to train individuals on how to manage Launchpad, even one on one for our core reviewers that don’t know h

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Kolla-Kubernetes tagging -> on the road to 1.0.0

2016-12-07 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, Jeffrey delegated to me to determine the tagging structure for kolla-kubernetes. I was under the mistaken impression we need to tag 1.0.0 with the milestone tags (such as 1.0.0.0b2/1.0.0.0b3) for kolla-kubernetes. That is not the case. We will be tagging 0.4.0 next, then 0.5.0, th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-03 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thierry, I personally prefer the meeting rooms as they are; however, we do need more of them. I am often pinged in various other meetings in the common meeting channels and find the group communication that happens in this way preferable to joining each specific project channel. Joining each

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] propose to remove COPY_ONCE feature

2016-12-03 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Paul, This is a good question probably best sent to the operators list. I’m not sure also if operators know the difference in Kolla’s implementation. I don’t believe Kolla’s documentation explains it particularly well. I never wanted COPY_ALWAYS in the code base, but I tolerated it as COPY_ON

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] propose to remove COPY_ONCE feature

2016-12-01 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Jeffrey, Can’t post inline (outlook bug). kolla-kubernetes has no use-case for COPY_ALWAYS. The kolla-kubernetes deliverable uses a construct called EmptyDir to store configuration files. There is no way to hand-modify the configuration files in EmptyDir that I am aware of nor was any of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] propose to remove COPY_ONCE feature

2016-12-01 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Jeffrey, The kolla-kubernetes deliverable requires COPY_ONCE not COPY_ALWAYS. Some operators prefer immutability over hand-modification of configuration files on all nodes. Therefore, I propose we keep both in place. Regards -steve From: Jeffrey Zhang Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailin

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Pruning Kolla-Kubernetes core reviewers

2016-11-30 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hello folks, Michal (inc0) is the PTL of Kolla. He has asked me to send this message since it was my agreement with the community in the Austin Design Summit when I served as Kolla PTL that people that participate in the implementation of the kolla-kubernetes deliverable at the start of the de

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Kolla-ansible is available

2016-11-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
It’s not really about easy or hard. We don’t want to make the gating less optimal then it was pre-repo split. To achieve that objective, cross-repo gating is necessary to validate the images in the docker repo are correct wrt the orchestration system they were developed against originally (whi

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Vote to add zhubingbing to core team

2016-11-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
+1 from me ☺ -Original Message- From: Michał Jastrzębski Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Vote to add

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies

2016-11-28 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
tions)" Date: Monday, November 28, 2016 at 2:06 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:15:17AM +, Steven

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies

2016-11-28 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
er-constraints.txt > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) > wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > I get a lot of requests for variance reduction of transitive dependencies > > in Kolla’s

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies

2016-11-28 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
usage questions)" Date: Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 9:42 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:41:08AM +,

[openstack-dev] [kolla][release][requirements] providing constraints for transitive dependencies

2016-11-27 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, I get a lot of requests for variance reduction of transitive dependencies in Kolla’s containers. As an example, we build from source nova. Nova itself we can specify a version to install in the containers during build time. Nova’s python dependencies, not so much. Is there a best

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] the alternative of log processing tool

2016-11-27 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Jeffrey, Logstash-forwarder is deprecated upstream, so we can’t rely on that. Elastic's replacement is filebeat. I’m not sure which one meets the requirements – filebeat or fluentd. In kolla-kubernetes fluentd is being used, and is well maintained. Both implementations are pretty green IMO.

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][infra] How to handle doc in kolla and kolla-ansible

2016-11-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
bit terrified to change them ;) It may be possible to solve this via a massive reorg that is well reviewed and -2’ed until everything can merge in one go. Regards -steve On 11/21/16, 5:43 AM, "Andreas Jaeger" wrote: >On 2016-11-21 13:24, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][infra] How to handle doc in kolla and kolla-ansible

2016-11-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Pete, The main problem with that is publishing docs to docs.oo which would then confuse the reader even more then they are already confused by reading our docs ;) Regards -steve From: Pete Birley mailto:pete@port.direct>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][infra] How to handle doc in kolla and kolla-ansible

2016-11-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Yup this is a real challenge to sort out properly. I’ve included infra for their guidance (thanks people :). Here is the issue Each package should include enough docs that it stands alone after a git checkout (IMO). We also publish docs to docs.oo which should IMO contain one set of docs for

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][git]How to backport commit after repo split

2016-11-18 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
You mean contributing doc? Sounds like a winner to me. I am really concerned about how to sort out back ports as it relates to the repository split, and documenting a best practice here makes a lot of sense (once we figure out what that simple best practice is - which I think is covered in thi

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Obtaining version information for Docker container

2016-11-18 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Zhu, This isn’t the first time this question has been asked :) Since this is a technical matter, I’ve copied openstack-dev for a wider audience. I don’t have a clear solution to obtaining version manifests for container content or the upstream container version. Perhaps someone in our broade

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-ansible][kolla-kubernetes] Kolla core election policy change - vote

2016-11-17 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Can we stick to one tag [kolla] for all ML discussion? A whole slew of people already have filters setup. Kolla is one project with one mission with multiple deliverables. No other project that has multiple deliverables tags emails per deliverable. I don’t think this is an occasion to be a s

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-ansible][kolla-kubernetes] Kolla core election policy change - vote

2016-11-17 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
+1 On 11/17/16, 2:50 AM, "Paul Bourke" wrote: >+1 > >On 17/11/16 07:18, Martin André wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Michał Jastrzębski wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> In light of recent events (kolla-kubernetes becoming thriving project, >>> kolla-ansible being split) I feel we need to

[openstack-dev] [kolla] repo split underway

2016-11-14 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, Thanks to the efforts of the openstyack-infra and release teams in coaching me through how to do the job properly, the repo split is ready to go (requires a couple +1’s from inc0 as he is the PTL of our merry band). What this means is some patches that are merging now may have to be

[openstack-dev] [kolla][tc] Kolla Repo Split Change

2016-11-13 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Technical Committee, Please consider the following review for inclusion in the governance repository once Michal has +1’ed it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396901/ Regards -steve __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (n

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Version numbers for kolla-ansible repository.

2016-11-12 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thanks, I have done exactly as you recommended. Regards -steve On 11/12/16, 10:49 AM, "Andreas Jaeger" wrote: >On 11/12/2016 11:15 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: >> The proposal I think you made is what I was thinking we would do, so just to >> clarify: >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Version numbers for kolla-ansible repository.

2016-11-12 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
more challenging in general with a repo split. The core reviewers committed to maintaining back ports properly when they voted on the repo split. Regards -steve On 11/11/16, 7:43 AM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2016-11

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security] pycrypto vs cryptography

2016-11-09 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
eration is optional right? I mean, as far as kolla is concerned - it doesn't *need* to generate the passwords... If /etc/kolla/passwords.yml is created outside of kolla-genpwd, then kolla isn't creating any credentials itself and the algorithm, entropy and policy is transparent to

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security] pycrypto vs cryptography

2016-11-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Ok, Pavo has told me he has exceptions in place for everything related to Kolla. He says as long as we don’t use MD5, he is good to go for a 232 node deploy with more to follow (assuming Kolla works out of the box at that scale - we have only tested 123 node scale). We do some basic PRNG to g

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Version numbers for kolla-ansible repository.

2016-11-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thanks Jeremy. That is a hugely helpful piece of advice. I will include a link to your email to make sure I’m doing it correctly when I split the repo. Regards, -steve On 11/8/16, 8:24 AM, "Jeremy Stanley" wrote: >On 2016-11-08 19:07:07 +0530 (+0530), Swapnil Kulkarni wrote: >[...] >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Version numbers for kolla-ansible repository.

2016-11-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
On 11/8/16, 9:08 AM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2016-11-08 13:08:11 +: >> Hey folks, >> >> As we split out the repository per our unanimous vote several months ago, we >> have a choice to make (

[openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Version numbers for kolla-ansible repository.

2016-11-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, As we split out the repository per our unanimous vote several months ago, we have a choice to make (I think, assuming we are given latitude of the release team who is in the cc list) as to which version to call kolla-ansible. My personal preference is to completely retag our newly s

Re: [openstack-dev] [ptl][release] ocata release management communication

2016-11-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Doug, As predecessor PTL for Kolla, I have followed your recommendations 1-4 including this ack, although I am not sure its really necessary for me. Note, I am not sure Michal (inc0 on irc) wants me to continue as release liaison or do the job himself, so that step has not yet been taken. I w

[openstack-dev] [vote] Re: [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
This may have got lost in the noise of the last few days of ml. As a result, I am tagging with [vote]. I currently count 7 +1’s but again – lots of mailing list traffic so I may be off on my counting. For all core reviewers: In the future to help inc0 out with tallying the votes for votes core

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security] pycrypto vs cryptography

2016-11-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
t projects wanting to use cryptography directly. fwiw, i don't see a claim to support FIPS-140-2 in cryptography: https://cryptography.io/en/latest/development/test-vectors/ https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/tree/master/vectors/cryptography_vectors/asymmetric/ECDSA Thanks, Dims On Sun, Nov 6

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security][trove] pycrypto vs cryptography

2016-11-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security] pycrypto vs cryptography On 2016-11-06 08:05:51 +0000 (+), Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Currently Kolla uses pycrypto in our requirements. I see a lot of big tent projects moving to cryptography. Is this just my imagina

[openstack-dev] [requirements][kolla][security] pycrypto vs cryptography

2016-11-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Requirements team, Currently Kolla uses pycrypto in our requirements. I see a lot of big tent projects moving to cryptography. Is this just my imagination, or was there a decision on this from the requirements team? We are happy to comply with whatever dep management is considered appropriat

[openstack-dev] [kolla] status of repo split

2016-11-05 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, I’ve been on PTO the last week and made zero progress on the repo split. I notice lots and lots of patches merging, which makes doing the repo split more complex. I am on the road to CloudNativeCon Nov7th-Nov9th. After I return on the 10th, I’ll start the process of submitting the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
tion will be to write GPL driver that will be run with popen. Question is whether this driver can sit in Kolla repo or not, and if not, where? On Nov 4, 2016 6:51 PM, "Steven Dake (stdake)" mailto:std...@cisco.com>> wrote: Michal, Have you read nothing I’ve said? If its new cod

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Michal, Have you read nothing I’ve said? If its new code, write it as ASL2.0. The fact that it plugs in or uses GPLv3 code is totally irrelevant since it is isolated by a network layer (specifically popen). Regards -steve From: Michał Jastrzębski Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing Li

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Clint, I disagree that modules (which are really plugins) must be licensed under GPLv3. You may license any module code as you like (i.e. ASL2.0) and include it in a GPLv3 project via Ansible modules because the modules act as plugins. The ASL2.0 license does taint, however, it does not matte

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Cool. I didn’t even know ansible had a BSD licensed example module. As we have a module expertise in our community already, I suspect we will start from zero code rather than introduce a BSD license addendum to the Kolla repo. Regards -steve From: Jeremy Stanley Reply-To: "OpenStack Develop

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Friday, November 4, 2016 at 3:50 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3 On 2016-11-04 22:22:47 +0000 (+),

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Swapnil, If you feel someone is lazy with not filing bugs for backports or feature request, with a monster feature request or something that requires a backport, simply -1 the review and add a polite comment “Please add a bug ID or blueprint”. Regards, -steve From: Swapnil Kulkarni Reply-To

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Paul, I’ll take your request as a request for a vote of the core reviewers. My vote is +1 in favor of removing the requirement for TrivialFix. As per our standard policy, the voting window is open for 7 days beginning November 3rd, and finishing (in 7 days) on November 11th. Regards -steve F

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Andreas, Agree. Asked and answered. If Michal has some differing viewpoint, that’s his prerogative as the PTL of Kolla, however, I would have serious concerns with that model, and would request a vote of the core reviewers to solidify our processes to match the OpenStack way. Regards -steve

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Define “touching GPLv3 code”. If you mean using someone else’s work which creates a derived work, that is a big no-no. This would cause your CL If it’s a fresh implementation, then USE ASL2.0. This creates a transitive dependency that taints the module on instantiation, however, since we use

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Jeremy, Kolla doesn’t want to be a special snowflake WRT patches. TrivialFix was introduced to help core reviewers identify what bugs need backports vs which changes do not or are feature changes (which we also don’t backport). We don’t always get backport tracking correctly, but I think we a

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
The general rule I follow (and would propose we stick to) is is as follows: If it requires a backport – it requires a bug id. (This is to facilitate the tracking of backports to make sure we do the job correctly) If it doesn’t require a backport but is a feature submission, it should include a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][kolla] Ansible module with GPLv3

2016-11-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Wrong answer. The correct answer is all software in the Kolla repository should be ASL2.0 licensed. See legal list for a more thorough explanation based upon the historical discussions I’ve been through with the TC and BOD on this question. If it is GPLv3 licensed code, it should be implement

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Re: Your draft logo & sneak peek

2016-10-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Forgot kolla tag in subject. From: Steven Dake mailto:std...@cisco.com>> Date: Friday, October 21, 2016 at 7:50 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Cc: "Jastrzebski, Michal" mailto:michal.jastrzeb...@intel.com>> Subject

[openstack-dev] FW: Your draft logo & sneak peek

2016-10-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Folks, Inline is the draft logo of the Kolla mascot and logo. We will be getting various types of swag at the first PTG related to our mascot. The deadline for feedback is November 11th, 2016. See the email inside from Heidi for more information on our project mascots. Super exciting! Rega

Re: [openstack-dev] [release][ansible][fuel][kolla][puppet][tripleo] proposed deadlines for cycle-trailing projects

2016-10-18 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Doug, Kolla rc3 is available in the queue by the hard deadline (more or less). I have a quick Q - would I need to submit another 3.0.0 patch with the same git commit id, or does the release team do that automatically? Regards -steve On 10/7/16, 12:16 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: >This wee

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Last bug before tagging 3.0.0

2016-10-17 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Folks, We are in dire need of any help core reviewers can provide fixing the following bug: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-bug-1631503 For everyone that submits a patch, please take responsibility to back port it to stable/newton. This is a one click operation. Make sure not to back p

Re: [openstack-dev] [daisycloud-core] Kolla Mitaka requirements supported by CentOS

2016-10-14 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
tions)" Date: Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:33 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [daisycloud-core] Kolla Mitaka requirements supported by CentOS Le 12 oct. 2016 6:01 AM, "Steven Dake (stdake)" mailto:std...@ci

[openstack-dev] [kolla] RC3 Objectives - OCT 18th DEADLINE

2016-10-13 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
RC2 has been tagged. The stable/newton branch has been created. Master is open for business! Core reviewers please remove any procedural -2’s you have placed on reviews. In RC3 of Kolla, we are fixing only critical bugs. All bugs in rc3 need to be backported to stable/newton in order to tag

Re: [openstack-dev] PTG from the Ops Perspective - a few short notes

2016-10-12 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 12:51 AM To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] PTG from the Ops Perspective - a few short notes Excerpts from Steven Dake (stdake)'s message of 2016-10-12 06:42:43

Re: [openstack-dev] PTG from the Ops Perspective - a few short notes

2016-10-11 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Tom, No flame, just observation about the reality of these changes. I think we missed this communication on the mailing list or in the FAQs or somewhere else. I think most engineering-focused organizations are looking at the PTGs only and not really considering the summit for budget planning.

Re: [openstack-dev] [rpm-packaging][chef][puppet][salt][openstack-ansible][HA][tripleo][kolla][fuel] Schema proposal for config file handling for services

2016-10-11 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thomas, Kolla does not use systemd fies (bifrost may be different here – I am not certain). Kolla also does not use default configuration files that are shipped with distros. We find this model to be disruptive to reliable development. I get distros want to ship them and that’s fine by us.

Re: [openstack-dev] [daisycloud-core] Kolla Mitaka requirements supported by CentOS

2016-10-11 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Haikel, We attempted removing EPEL from our repo lists. We got build errors on cinder-volume. We have iscsi integration because vendors require it to work with their third party plugins. The package iscsi-target-utils is not in the newton repos for RDO. The package that fails can be seen he

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Cross proejct initiative patches should merge free of tags/bugs/blueprints

2016-10-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, Cross project initiative patches like this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383226/1 Should always be approved if they pass code review and the gate is green. There is no need for a bug id or trivial fix or blueprint. Please do make sure to verify they are correct and don’t al

Re: [openstack-dev] [release][ansible][fuel][kolla][puppet][tripleo] proposed deadlines for cycle-trailing projects

2016-10-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
harder time coming up with optimal solutions because I lack the context the release team has. Regards -steve From: "Steven Dake (stdake)" Date: Friday, October 7, 2016 at 1:39 PM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-de

Re: [openstack-dev] [release][ansible][fuel][kolla][puppet][tripleo] proposed deadlines for cycle-trailing projects

2016-10-07 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Doug, We have already tagged rc1 long ago, but ack on rc2 (we are targeting 12th at present) and ack on 20th for retag of final rc. We expect our rc2 to be final. If there are critical bugs that make the release doa in some way (such as upgrades, reconfigure etc), we will obviously have to ta

[openstack-dev] [kolla] ~root and /etc of osic testing

2016-10-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey folks, Several people have asked for archives of the OSIC work we did. Those files can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8q6xDPETSkHc05fR21qeElpc2M?usp=sharing Regards, -steve __ OpenStack Develop

Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-10-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
e: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 4:46 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) mailto:std...@cisco.com>> wrote: Emilen, You say "the previous *PTL* of an Op

Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-10-04 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Emilen, You say "the previous *PTL* of an OpenStack installation automation project" as if there were only one previous PTL :) There are many previous PTLs of OpenStack automation projects. I feel the question was directed at me, so I'll answer. From:

Re: [openstack-dev] FYI - gate completely borked on master and newton dsvm/grenade jobs

2016-10-02 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Also impacts Kolla (as in our gates are blocked). At present we are using the proposed workaround until the pycparser 2.14 wheel and package are synced up. Regards -steve From: Matt Riedemann Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Sunday, October 2, 2

[openstack-dev] Self-nomination to serve on the technical committee team

2016-09-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
My Peers, I am self-nominating for serving you as your technical committee representative. I won't bore you with my professional accomplishments. If you want to see such information to judge if I'm qualified for serving you on the technical committee team, that information is available in my fou

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] Deprecation Policies (related to Heka)

2016-09-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
re...@betacloud-solutions.de>> wrote: > On 29 Sep 2016, at 06:26, Steven Dake (stdake) > mailto:std...@cisco.com>> wrote: > > If you have a different parsing of the deprecation policy, feel free to > chime in. Heka is only used as an internal component of Kolla and is not p

[openstack-dev] Deprecation Policies (related to Heka)

2016-09-28 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
First off, apologies for missing most of the team meeting today. I have read through the logs and saw a discussion about deprecating heka. We need to ensure that we follow the deprecation policy. My understanding of the deprecation policy is as follows (in a nutshell): 1. We must mail

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Fedora Atomic image that supports kubernetes external load balancer (for stable/mitaka)

2016-09-28 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
e been stable. Dane and I have resolved the problems with the load balancer at least for the LBaaS v1. For LBaaS v2, we need to build a new image with Kubernetes 1.3 and we just got one built today. Ton, [nactive hide details for "Steven Dake (stdake)" ---09/27/2016 10:18:07 PM]"S

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Fedora Atomic image that supports kubernetes external load balancer (for stable/mitaka)

2016-09-27 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Dane, I’ve heard Yolanda has done good work on making disk image builder build fedora atomic properly consistently. This may work better than the current image building tools available with atomic if you need to roll your own. Might try pinging her on irc for advice if you get jammed up here.

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-26 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
ack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s On 23/09/16 17:47 +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Flavio, Forgive the top post and lack of responding inline – I am dealing with

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] the user in container should NOT have write permission for configuration file

2016-09-26 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Sam is correct here. This is the why behind the how ☺ Regards -steve From: Sam Yaple Reply-To: "s...@yaple.net" , "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Monday, September 26, 2016 at 7:43 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Sub

Re: [openstack-dev] [security] [salt] Removal of Security and OpenStackSalt project teams from the Big Tent

2016-09-23 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
4:23 AM, Davanum Srinivas mailto:dava...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Steven, > > Fair point. > > Thanks, > Dims > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) > mailto:std...@cisco.com>> > wrote: > > Dims, > > > > This isn’t any of my pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-23 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Stack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Friday, September 23, 2016 at 11:43 AM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s On 09/23/2016 01:04 PM, Steven Dake (s

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-23 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
ct: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s On 22/09/16 20:55 +, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: Flavio, Apologies for delay in response – my backlog is large. Forgive me if I parsed your message incorrectly. It's probably me failing to

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-23 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Bogdan, I recognize English isn’t your first language, so forgive me if I have mis-parsed your message. I think the question you are asking is “Can we have cooperation to standardize on how best to do OpenStack on Kubernetes”. We tried an analog of that with Mirantis around Mesos, and that re

Re: [openstack-dev] [security] [salt] Removal of Security and OpenStackSalt project teams from the Big Tent

2016-09-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Dims, This isn’t any of my particular business except it could affect emerging technology projects (which I find important to OpenStack’s future) negatively – so I thought I’d chime in. A lack of activity in a specs repo doesn’t mean much to me. For example, as Kolla was an emerging project w

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] when we use yum install ansible to install ansible2.1.1.0, I deploy failed with mitaka ,and actually precheck limit version to 2.0.0.

2016-09-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Lu, The kolla documentation specifically states Newton has a pin on ansible < 2.0.0.0 From: "lu.yao...@zte.com.cn" Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 5:41 AM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" Subject: [openstac

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][fuel][tripleo] Reference architecture to deploy OpenStack on k8s

2016-09-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Flavio, Apologies for delay in response – my backlog is large. Forgive me if I parsed your message incorrectly. It came across to me as “How do I blaze a trail for OpenStack on Kubernetes?”. That was asked of me personally 3 years ago which led to the formation of the Kolla project inside Re

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support

2016-09-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
>> decision making process. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> -steve >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Mathias Ewald >> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not

[openstack-dev] [all][summit][kolla] Returning one workroom session to the foundation

2016-09-22 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
OpenStack summit planning team, We have been planning summit for approximately 2-3 months here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-O-summit-planning We further codified this into a vote via civs: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_8368e1e74f8a0049 As you can see from the prel

Re: [openstack-dev] [ptl] code churn and questionable changes

2016-09-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Folks, We want to be inviting to new contributors even if they are green. New contributors reflect on OpenStack’s growth in a positive way. The fact that a new-to-openstack contributor would make such and error doesn’t warrant such a negative response even if it a hassle for the various PTLs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] Ocata summit session poll

2016-09-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
em. Let see how priorities will look like after couple days:) Also, please vote! On 21 September 2016 at 12:54, Swapnil Kulkarni wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: >> One note in this poll. Repo-split has already reached a co

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Branching of stable/newton

2016-09-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
other policies (i.e. project maturity tags) in OpenStack because of this decision, that information would be helpful as well. Thanks! -steve On 9/19/16, 6:51 AM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-09-18 16:08:04 +0200: > Steven D

Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] Ocata summit session poll

2016-09-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
One note in this poll. Repo-split has already reached a consensus decision via ml vote, and the activity around that will happen prior to summit, so it is probably worth ignoring entirely. Regards -steve On 9/21/16, 10:14 AM, "Michał Jastrzębski" wrote: Hello, Now, when we have

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

2016-09-21 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
On 9/20/16, 11:18 AM, "Haïkel" wrote: 2016-09-19 19:40 GMT+02:00 Jeffrey Zhang : > Kolla core reviewer team, > > Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including > > * Ubuntu > * CentOS > * RHEL > * Fedora > * Debian > * OracleLinux > > B

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support

2016-09-20 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:25 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support Option 2 2016-09-20 16:07 GMT+02:00 Steven Dake (stdake) mailto:std...@cisco.com>>: Con

Re: [openstack-dev] [networking-cisco] Poll to decide networking-cisco weekly meeting times

2016-09-20 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Sam, Can this meeting instead be held in the normal openstack-meeting-1 -> 4 channels? Having one-off meetings in #openstack-networking-cisco is totally fine. Having standing team meetings there is atypical of OpenStack projects. The main value of using the opentack-meeting-1-4 channels is t

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support

2016-09-20 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
ot; Date: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 7:25 AM To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support Option 2 2016-09-20 16:07 GMT+02:00 Steven Dake (stdake) mailto:std...@cisco.co

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support

2016-09-20 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Consider this a reversal of my vote for Debian deprecation. Swapnil, thanks for bringing this fact to our attention. It was missing from the original vote. I don’t know why I didn’t bring up Benedikt’s contributions (which were substantial) just as Paul’s were substantial for Oracle Linux. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

2016-09-19 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Fwiw Swapnil, I think having a solid fedora implementation would be fantastic to help manage the transition to centos8 whenever that happens. At this point nobody has stepped up to do the work. We can always revisit any policy or vote in the future if the environment changes (i.e. you are free

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

2016-09-19 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
I disagree. Oracle Linux is well implemented and very well maintained by Paul Bourke and many other fine folks from Oracle. CentOS is derived from RHEL (changing trademarks and marketing fluff, not code). Regards -steve From: Dave Walker Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for debian distro support

2016-09-19 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
+1 for option #2 with same commentary as prior relating to fedora. Regards -steve On 9/19/16, 10:44 AM, "Jeffrey Zhang" wrote: Kolla core reviewer team, Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including * Ubuntu * CentOS * RHEL * Fedora * Debian * O

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

2016-09-19 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
+1 for option 2, unless some good Fedora folk appear in Kolla to maintain it in the future. In that case, we can always undo a deprecation within a cycle. Note the deprecation policy states that we do not remove functionality for 1 cycle after having released it for stable deliverables. Even t

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Branching of stable/newton

2016-09-18 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Thierry, Cool wfm. Thanks -steve On 9/18/16, 7:08 AM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > Release team, > > At one point Doug had indicated all projects would automatically branch > on tagging of rc1. I notice in git no Koll

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][elections][ptl] Kolla PTL Candidacy for Jeffrey Zhang

2016-09-18 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hui, Change is what you will see as I am not running for PTL for Ocata. Reference: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103499.html Regards -steve On 9/14/16, 4:32 PM, "Hui Kang" wrote: +1 for Jeffrey Zhang - Jeffrey is full time on Kolla - St

[openstack-dev] [kolla][release] Branching of stable/newton

2016-09-17 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Release team, At one point Doug had indicated all projects would automatically branch on tagging of rc1. I notice in git no Kolla stable/newton branch exists. Fwiw this is actually a good thing, because 33 patches have merged since rc1 relating to things that need to go into Newton, dramatical

Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] Core Nomination for Christian Berendt (berendt on irc)

2016-09-15 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Christian, While the vote was not unanimous, a strong majority of core reviewers were in favor of our nomination with no veto in the voting period. I know the two core reviewers that did not vote are travelling so perhaps they missed the vote. Welcome to the core review team! I attempted to m

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