Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-25 Thread Dmitry Pyzhov
Anastasia, we are going to invest one more day in investigation of high priority bug, we cannot reproduce it at the moment. I don't think that we should fix medium bugs in feature that soon will be deprecated. On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Anastasia Urlapova wrote: > Dima, > if we want to de

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-25 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
Dima, if we want to deprecate UI logs in 10.0, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't fix issues in 9.0. Thank you! Nastya. On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Dmitry Pyzhov wrote: > As we are going to deprecate logs on UI I'm going to mark following bugs > as "won't fix". Any objections? > High prio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-25 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
+1 > 25 бер. 2016 р. о 13:31 Dmitry Pyzhov написав(ла): > > As we are going to deprecate logs on UI I'm going to mark following bugs as > "won't fix". Any objections? > High priority bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1553170 > > Medium p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-25 Thread Dmitry Pyzhov
As we are going to deprecate logs on UI I'm going to mark following bugs as "won't fix". Any objections? High priority bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1553170 Medium priority: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1554546 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1539508 On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-14 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
Folks, I’ve registered a blueprint [1] and created an etherpad document [2] where we can co-work on the spec before posting it to a formal review. Let’s cooperate to summarize what we need to do. 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/remove-logs-from-nailgun 2. https://etherpad.opensta

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-14 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
On 03/14/2016 09:38 AM, Anastasia Urlapova wrote: > +1 to Vitaliy, it would be nice find somewhere a details for migration. > And one more concern I should highlight - for some users logless UI may > be challenging thing. > The logs removing shouldn't affect the UX. Logs will still live at the mas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-14 Thread Anastasia Urlapova
+1 to Vitaliy, it would be nice find somewhere a details for migration. And one more concern I should highlight - for some users logless UI may be challenging thing. The logs removing shouldn't affect the UX. Nastya. On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 3:08 AM, Andrew Woodward wrote: > I think we can add

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Andrew Woodward
I think we can address it by retaining deployment logs in nailgun/ui, this also removes the chicken and egg problem. after LMA is deployed it can be allowed to re-own 'logs' button on UI once it's deployed, including redirecting fuel logs there. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:07 PM Mike Scherbakov wro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
We can sort out details later. In a worst case, the warning will be there in Newton too, and feature will go away only in O* release. So let's proceed with the bug.. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:02 PM Vitaly Kramskikh wrote: > We can add the warning, but I think before we do this we should have cle

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Vitaly Kramskikh
We can add the warning, but I think before we do this we should have clear migration plan. According to this thread, some parts are still not clear. 2016-03-11 22:00 GMT+03:00 Mike Scherbakov : > Deprecation warning for Fuel Mitaka: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1556244. > > > On Fri, Ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Deprecation warning for Fuel Mitaka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1556244. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:59 AM Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: > Since there are a lot of supporters for this idea, what do you folks think > about creating a BP spec where we can describe what we should do in order >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
Since there are a lot of supporters for this idea, what do you folks think about creating a BP spec where we can describe what we should do in order to remove logs from UI and Nailgun? I also propose to file a bug about adding a deprecation warning to Mitaka release of Fuel. > 11 бер. 2016 р.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
On 03/11/2016 04:46 PM, Mike Scherbakov wrote: > +1 to remove logs from Fuel UI in Fuel Newton. > In Fuel Mitaka we'd need to put a deprecation warning somewhere. I agree, there is not much sense having non flexible (no content filters) logs view in UI. LMA plugins shall cover this area as well.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
+1 to remove logs from Fuel UI in Fuel Newton. In Fuel Mitaka we'd need to put a deprecation warning somewhere. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016, 04:57 Patrick Petit wrote: > > On 11 March 2016 at 12:51:40, Igor Kalnitsky (ikalnit...@mirantis.com) > wrote: > > Patrick, > > Sorry, but I meant another questio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Patrick Petit
On 11 March 2016 at 12:51:40, Igor Kalnitsky (ikalnit...@mirantis.com) wrote: Patrick,  Sorry, but I meant another question. I thought that LMA plugin should  be installed in some environment before we can start use it. Is this a  case? If so, it means we can't use for master node until some  en

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Patrick, Sorry, but I meant another question. I thought that LMA plugin should be installed in some environment before we can start use it. Is this a case? If so, it means we can't use for master node until some environment is deployed. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Patrick Petit wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Patrick Petit
On 11 March 2016 at 11:34:32, Igor Kalnitsky (ikalnit...@mirantis.com) wrote: Hey Roman, Thank you for bringing this up. +1 from my side, especially taking into account the patch where we tried to solve logrotated logs problem [1]. It's complex and unsupportable, as well as already existed logvi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Hey Roman, Thank you for bringing this up. +1 from my side, especially taking into account the patch where we tried to solve logrotated logs problem [1]. It's complex and unsupportable, as well as already existed logview code in Nailgun. Patrick, Simon, Does LMA plugin support logs from master n

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Patrick Petit
Fuelers, As Simon said, we already have a log centralisation solution for MOS delivered as a Fuel plugins known as StackLight / LMA toolset. And so objectively, there is no need to have log management in Nailgun anymore. To go one step further we suggested several times to have a StackLight age

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, +1, it's very hard to use current representation of logs for debugging, everybody goes to the node and tries to find required logs, instead of reimplementing debugging friendly tool it would be better to get something ready to use on the master. Thanks, On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Simo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hello Roman, On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: > Fuelers, > > I remember we’ve discussing this topic in our couloirs before but I’d like > to bring that discussion to a more official format. > > Let me state a few reasons to do this: > > - Log management code in Nailgun

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Removing logs from Fuel Web UI and Nailgun

2016-03-11 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
Fuelers, I remember we’ve discussing this topic in our couloirs before but I’d like to bring that discussion to a more official format. Let me state a few reasons to do this: - Log management code in Nailgun is overcomplicated - Working with logs on big scale deployments is barely possible give