Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-18 Thread Jay Pipes
hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com>] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:41 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-18 Thread Timur Sufiev
> Thanks, >> Kevin >> ________ >> From: Kruithof, Piet [pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com] >> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:41 AM >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-17 Thread Adam Young
Piet [pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com>] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:41 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org <mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity das

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-17 Thread Steve Martinelli
pment Mailing List Date: 2015/08/17 09:54 PM Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities I think we've conveniently been led off track here. The original request/subject was regarding pagination of p

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-17 Thread Adam Young
On 08/15/2015 01:15 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:26 PM Adam Young > wrote: On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > 1- Do users want to page through search results? Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-17 Thread David Lyle
obably within a smaller set of pages? > > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Kruithof, Piet [pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:41 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keysto

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-17 Thread Fox, Kevin M
From: Kruithof, Piet [pieter.c.kruithof...@hp.com] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:41 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities I like Michael’s response because it moved the thread

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-16 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 16, 2015, at 08:02, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:02 AM Morgan Fainberg >> wrote: >> Please do not construe a major api change as backwards incompatible. This >> pagination was never supported in v3 properly/at all. > > Sure, let's argue semantics!

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-16 Thread Kruithof, Piet
I like Michael’s response because it moved the thread towards identifying actual user needs before digging into the technical feasibility. IMHO, it would be helpful to have a few people on the list answer his questions: 1 - Do users want to page through search results? 2 - Do users want to pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:02 AM Morgan Fainberg wrote: > Please do not construe a major api change as backwards incompatible. This > pagination was never supported in v3 properly/at all. > Sure, let's argue semantics! That's a useful path forward :). As we move towards tools like FreeIPA Or so

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-15 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:58, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > > > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:15, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:26 PM Adam Young wrote: >>> On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >>> > 1- Do users want to page through search results? >>> Do

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-15 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:15, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > > >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:26 PM Adam Young wrote: >> On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >> > 1- Do users want to page through search results? >> Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not available. > > L

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-15 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:26 PM Adam Young wrote: > On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > > 1- Do users want to page through search results? > Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not available. > Let's back up here for a sec: A user wants to page a list of data. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/14/2015 06:30 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 15:10, Jay Pipes wrote: >>> >>> On 08/14/2015 05:24 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: > 1- Do users want to page throug

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/14/2015 06:30 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: On Aug 14, 2015, at 15:10, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/14/2015 05:24 PM, Adam Young wrote: On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: 1- Do users want to page through search results? Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not availa

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Morgan Fainberg
> On Aug 14, 2015, at 15:10, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> On 08/14/2015 05:24 PM, Adam Young wrote: >>> On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: >>> 1- Do users want to page through search results? >> Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not available. > > OK, so hobble the enti

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/14/2015 05:24 PM, Adam Young wrote: On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: 1- Do users want to page through search results? Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not available. OK, so hobble the entire REST API for the deficiencies/architecture/reality of a singl

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Adam Young
On 08/14/2015 12:43 PM, Michael Krotscheck wrote: 1- Do users want to page through search results? Does not matter: in Federation, the User list is not available. 2- Do users want to page through filter results? (do they use filter results?) This is the only practical tool available for LDAP.

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Keystone] [Horizon] Pagination support for Identity dashboard entities

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Krotscheck
I don't have a horse in the "What should keystone support" race. I do, however, need to point out that any UX argument made about how a UI should work should, at this point, ask the OpenStack UX program for help! Thus I've changed the topic of this email to make sure Piet and the UX teams get a cha