Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-02 Thread Ian Cordasco
-Original Message- From: Chris Dent Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: March 2, 2017 at 06:50:11 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderat

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-02 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017, Clint Byrum wrote: So, I'll ask more generally: do you believe that the single openstack-dev mailing list is working fine and we should change nothing? If not, what problems has it created for you? No, it is not working fine, but that may be normal and the best we can do.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-01 Thread Mike Perez
On 13:04 Feb 27, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-02-27 15:43:12 -0500: > > > > As a person who sends a lot of process-driven email to this list, > > it is not working for my needs to communicate with others. > > > > Over the past few cycles when I was the releas

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-03-01 10:03:34 -0800: > Excerpts from Jonathan Bryce's message of 2017-03-01 11:49:38 -0600: > > > > > On Feb 28, 2017, at 4:25 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > > > > Clint Byrum wrote: > > So, I'll ask more generally: do you believe that the singl

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-01 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jonathan Bryce's message of 2017-03-01 11:49:38 -0600: > > > On Feb 28, 2017, at 4:25 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > > Clint Byrum wrote: > So, I'll ask more generally: do you believe that the single openstack-dev > mailing list is working fine and we should change nothi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-03-01 Thread Jonathan Bryce
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 4:25 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Clint Byrum wrote: So, I'll ask more generally: do you believe that the single openstack-dev mailing list is working fine and we should change nothing? If not, what problems has it created for you? >>> >>> As a person who

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-28 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: >>> So, I'll ask more generally: do you believe that the single openstack-dev >>> mailing list is working fine and we should change nothing? If not, what >>> problems has it created for you? >> >> As a person who sends a lot of process-driven email to this list, >> it is not wor

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2017-02-27 15:43:12 -0500: > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-02-27 09:35:21 -0800: > > Excerpts from Dean Troyer's message of 2017-02-27 09:32:09 -0600: > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > This is not for users who

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2017-02-27 09:35:21 -0800: > Excerpts from Dean Troyer's message of 2017-02-27 09:32:09 -0600: > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well > > > understood space and th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Mikhail Medvedev
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Shamail wrote: > > > The single openstack-dev list works fine for me. I am not using anything to > filter either beyond what my default mail clients offer. > > Could we modify the question slightly to also ask how people are dealing with > reading through the s

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-27 12:54:33 -0500 (-0500), Shamail wrote: [...] > Could we modify the question slightly to also ask how people are > dealing with reading through the single list? That might help us > write a page that newcomers could read to get tips on how to best > handle the mailing list traffic (wh

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:26:48PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2017-02-27 09:35:21 -0800 (-0800), Clint Byrum wrote: > [...] > > do you believe that the single openstack-dev mailing list is > > working fine and we should change nothing? If not, what problems > > has it created for you? > [...

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-27 09:35:21 -0800 (-0800), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] > do you believe that the single openstack-dev mailing list is > working fine and we should change nothing? If not, what problems > has it created for you? [...] Perhaps my case is unusual, but I find the current activity on this ML to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Treinish's message of 2017-02-27 13:03:56 -0500: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:18:10PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > Dean Troyer wrote: > > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > >> This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Dean Troyer
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Thanks for your reply. The proposed change is meant to benefit > readers of openstack-dev who do not have access to, or ability with, > sup/procmail/sieve/IMAP/etc., but do want to be able to be able to keep > up with the general flow of discu

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:18:10PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Dean Troyer wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well > >> understood space and the mailman filtering does handle it. This is for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Shamail
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Dean Troyer's message of 2017-02-27 09:32:09 -0600: >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well >>> understood space and the mailman fil

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dean Troyer's message of 2017-02-27 09:32:09 -0600: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well > > understood space and the mailman filtering does handle it. This is for > > those who want to moni

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Dean Troyer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well > >> understood space and the mailman filtering does handle it. This is for > >> those

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Ian Cordasco
-Original Message- From: Thierry Carrez Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: February 27, 2017 at 11:19:25 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dean Troyer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well >> understood space and the mailman filtering does handle it. This is for >> those who want to monitor the overall health of the community, address >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Dean Troyer
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > This is not for users who only want to see some projects. That is a well > understood space and the mailman filtering does handle it. This is for > those who want to monitor the overall health of the community, address > issues with cross-proje

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 27/02/2017 15:50, Matt Riedemann a écrit : > On 2/26/2017 11:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> >> You have taken the folder approach, and that is a bit less complicated >> to set up than sup+offlineimap, but still does require that you know >> how to filter by tag. It also means that you are experi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/26/2017 11:25 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: You have taken the folder approach, and that is a bit less complicated to set up than sup+offlineimap, but still does require that you know how to filter by tag. It also means that you are experiencing one of the problems with cross posting whenever anyb

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Luigi Toscano's message of 2017-02-27 03:02:45 -0500: > > - Original Message - > > Excerpts from Shamail Tahir's message of 2017-02-27 00:44:44 -0500: > > > Hi Clint, > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > > > > Excerpts from Matt Riedeman

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-27 Thread Luigi Toscano
- Original Message - > Excerpts from Shamail Tahir's message of 2017-02-27 00:44:44 -0500: > > Hi Clint, > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2017-02-26 19:48:50 -0600: > > > > On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Shamail Tahir
Thanks Clint! On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Shamail Tahir's message of 2017-02-27 00:44:44 -0500: > > Hi Clint, > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2017-02-26 19:48:50 -0600: > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Shamail Tahir's message of 2017-02-27 00:44:44 -0500: > Hi Clint, > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2017-02-26 19:48:50 -0600: > > > On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > During some productive discus

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Shamail Tahir
Hi Clint, On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2017-02-26 19:48:50 -0600: > > On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > During some productive discussions in the Stewardship Working Group PTG > > > room, the subject of the mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2017-02-26 19:48:50 -0600: > On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > During some productive discussions in the Stewardship Working Group PTG > > room, the subject of the mailing list came up. The usual questions > > around whether or not we should have

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 2/26/2017 6:52 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: During some productive discussions in the Stewardship Working Group PTG room, the subject of the mailing list came up. The usual questions around whether or not we should have per-project lists came up and the reasons we don't were re-affirmed. To recap th

[openstack-dev] [all][swg] per-project "Business only" moderated mailing lists

2017-02-26 Thread Clint Byrum
During some productive discussions in the Stewardship Working Group PTG room, the subject of the mailing list came up. The usual questions around whether or not we should have per-project lists came up and the reasons we don't were re-affirmed. To recap those reasons: * Cross posting is the pits