Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dean Troyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: One area where we could work to remove noise would be to move new core reviewers nomination/suggestion threads out of the ML. They are mostly useless IMHO

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Kuvaja, Erno wrote: [...] This is one of the benefits/caveats of having a single dev mailing list. There is lots of noise for everyone, but this particular noise is one of those I think we should not get rid of. One area where we could work to remove noise would be to move new core

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-23 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/23/2015 10:47 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kuvaja, Erno wrote: [...] This is one of the benefits/caveats of having a single dev mailing list. There is lots of noise for everyone, but this particular noise is one of those I think we should not get rid of. One area where we could work

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2015-03-23 07:51:43 -0700: On 03/23/2015 10:47 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kuvaja, Erno wrote: [...] This is one of the benefits/caveats of having a single dev mailing list. There is lots of noise for everyone, but this particular noise is one of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: One area where we could work to remove noise would be to move new core reviewers nomination/suggestion threads out of the ML. They are mostly useless IMHO (only +1s), and PTLs are empowered to make the call anyway.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 01:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-03-13 08:06:43 -0700: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 06:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-03-13 08:06:43 -0700: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 06:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-13 20:09:40 +0100 (+0100), Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] PS: I am not subscribed to announce list. Though I am ok to do so if we push announcements there. You might want to consider subscribing regardless of the outcome of this discussion. There is often helpful community information

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/12/2015 09:22 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra work, even with a streamlined workflow of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 06:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra work, even with a streamlined workflow of single-key-press-per-thread. So I'm wondering what people are getting from these

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015, at 06:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra work, even with a streamlined workflow of single-key-press-per-thread.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Clint, Personally I am quite interested in new releases of python clients and oslo stuff, but I believe that oslo releases announcement should be merged to single email with rate limit 1 email per week. It will be much simpler at least for me to track stuff. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Gregory Haynes
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-03-12 20:22:04 +: I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra work, even with a streamlined workflow of single-key-press-per-thread. So I'm wondering

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-12 13:22:04 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] So I'm wondering what people are getting from these announcements being on the discussion list. [...] The main thing I get from them is that they're being recorded to a (theoretically) immutable archive indexed by a lot of other

[openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Clint Byrum
I spend a not-insignificant amount of time deciding which threads to read and which to fully ignore each day, so extra threads mean extra work, even with a streamlined workflow of single-key-press-per-thread. So I'm wondering what people are getting from these announcements being on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 12/03/15 23:31 +0300, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Clint,  Personally I am quite interested in new releases of python clients and oslo stuff, but I believe  that oslo releases announcement should be merged to single email with rate limit 1 email per week.  It will be much simpler at least for me to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2015-03-12 13:58:20 -0700: On 2015-03-12 13:22:04 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] So I'm wondering what people are getting from these announcements being on the discussion list. [...] The main thing I get from them is that they're being

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 13 March 2015 at 12:22, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2015-03-12 13:58:20 -0700: On 2015-03-12 13:22:04 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] So I'm wondering what people are getting from these announcements being on the discussion list.