Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Joshua Harlow wrote: > Very nice write up +1 > > A question, many modules are pulling in oslo.log as seen from the > dependency graph which itself then pulls in oslo.config. Is the plan to > just have all these modules use the regular python logging and have > o

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Joshua Harlow
Very nice write up +1 A question, many modules are pulling in oslo.log as seen from the dependency graph which itself then pulls in oslo.config. Is the plan to just have all these modules use the regular python logging and have oslo.log be a plugin/formatter/adapter to python logging? Likely p

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Victor Sergeyev > wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo >> module instead of

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Jan 15, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Victor Sergeyev > wrote: > Hello All. > > As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo module > instead of lockfile library [1]. AFAIK, it must be due to this bug [2] > (ple

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Jan 15 2014, Ben Nemec wrote: > The problem is that lockfile doesn't really solve our current problem, > which is where to put the lock files. Fortunately, it sounds like Julien > is working on changes to lockutils to remove the file based locking, > which should solve the issues we're hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-15 05:51, Victor Sergeyev wrote: > Hello All. > > As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo module > instead of lockfile library [1]. AFAIK, it must be due to this bug [2] > (please fix me, if I wrong). > > This library is available on github [3] and

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: > Hello All. > > As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo > module instead of lockfile library [1]. AFAIK, it must be due to this bug > [2] (please fix me, if I wrong). > > This library is available on github [3] a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 14/01/14 14:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies >> between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to >> have a >> small number of libraries wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > > It would be nice to get lockutils graduated to solve some of the issues > > mentioned in the oslo.db section, but I believe we do have an outstanding > > question regarding its behavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Victor Sergeyev
Hello All. As for lockutils - a few days ago I wondered why we used custom oslo module instead of lockfile library [1]. AFAIK, it must be due to this bug [2] (please fix me, if I wrong). This library is available on github [3] and there is a pull-request fixing the bug [4], but unfortunately it h

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Jan 14 2014, Ben Nemec wrote: > It would be nice to get lockutils graduated to solve some of the issues > mentioned in the oslo.db section, but I believe we do have an > outstanding question regarding its behavior without lock_path being set. > I think Clint was on board with Sean's propos

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 14/01/14 14:48 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to have a small number of libraries with themes that make sense and the need to eliminate circular dependenci

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > It would be nice to get lockutils graduated to solve some of the issues > mentioned in the oslo.db section, but I believe we do have an outstanding > question regarding its behavior without lock_path being set. I think Clint > was on board with

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The notes are from the summit discussion, and I didn't open the bugs. I'll > do that this week. Should I assign them to you? If you assign them to me I will take a look at them. Michael -- Rackspace Australia

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-01-14 13:48, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies > between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to have a > small number of libraries with themes that make sense and the need to > eliminate circular

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
The notes are from the summit discussion, and I didn't open the bugs. I'll do that this week. Should I assign them to you? Doug On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Michael Still wrote: > You mention some concerns with processutils on that wiki page that I > was unaware of. I can't find bugs for t

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
You mention some concerns with processutils on that wiki page that I was unaware of. I can't find bugs for them either. Do you have any pointers to what is being referred to there? Thanks, Michael On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I've spent some time over the past day or t

[openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
I've spent some time over the past day or two looking at the dependencies between modules in the oslo incubator, trying to balance the desire to have a small number of libraries with themes that make sense and the need to eliminate circular dependencies. The results of all of this are posted to ht