[Openstack-operators] : Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-28 Thread Rochelle Grober
I've followed "cloud for at least as long as OpenStack has existed, but back then I followed whatever/whoever called themselves "cloud" or "cloud-{app|service|etc}" and at one point there was a heated discussion (mostly that the rest of the group agreed with) that you couldn't claim you ran in

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-26 Thread Silence Dogood
I figure if you have entity Y's workloads running on entity X's hardware... and that's 51% or greater portion of gross revenue... you are a public cloud. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Kenny Johnston wrote: > That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual > multi-tenan

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-26 Thread Kenny Johnston
That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual multi-tenancy requirement that traditionally separates private from public clouds. By that definition, Rackspace's Private Cloud offer, where we design, deploy and operate a single-tenant cloud on behalf of customers (in their d

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-26 Thread Matt Jarvis
Hi Blair Agree with you on a lot of that stuff, although on lifecycle management we certainly have a bunch of tooling in place to handle scenarios like initial creation of user environments ( basic network and router setup ), freezing resources for non-payment, offboarding of customers after accou

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-26 Thread Blair Bethwaite
Hi Matt, I think your dot points make sense. And yes, I was thinking about Science Cloud overlap. I see Science Clouds as potentially sharing most or all of these attributes (with the notable exception being charging in terms of end users seeing a $ figure, showback and/or instance/cpu hour quotas

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-23 Thread Rochelle Grober
Hi Matt, At considerable risk of heading down a rabbit hole... how are you defining "public" cloud for these purposes? Cheers, Blair Any cloud that provides a cloud to a thirdparty in exchange for money. So, rent a VM, rent a collection of vms, lease a fully operational cloud spec'ed to

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-22 Thread Matt Jarvis
Hey Blair Now you've done it ! OK, I'll bite and have a go at categorising that a bit : 1. Multi-tenant - tenants need clear separation 2. Self service sign up - customers on board themselves 3. Some kind of charging model in place which requires resource accounting 4. API endpoints and possibly

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-21 Thread Blair Bethwaite
Hi Matt, At considerable risk of heading down a rabbit hole... how are you defining "public" cloud for these purposes? Cheers, Blair On 21 September 2016 at 18:14, Matt Jarvis wrote: > Given there are quite a few public cloud operators in Europe now, is there > any interest in a public cloud g

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-21 Thread Matt Van Winkle
suggestion on the etherpad and let’s see what interest develops. Thanks! VW From: Matt Jarvis Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 3:14 AM To: OpenStack Operators Subject: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona Given there are quite a few public cloud operators in Europe

[Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in Barcelona

2016-09-21 Thread Matt Jarvis
Given there are quite a few public cloud operators in Europe now, is there any interest in a public cloud group meeting as part of the ops meetup in Barcelona ? I already know many of you, but I think it could be very useful to share our experiences with a wider group. -- DataCentred Limited regi