Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread jdd
Martin Schlander wrote: Søndag 11 juni 2006 21:25 skrev jdd: Rajko M wrote: First time moderation, or approved members, what is the difference? Someone takes time to read the mail and let poster subscribe, or not. very small in work (all the first time users needs to hit a moderator), but q

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Rajko M
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: This list is not appropriate for installation problems. Please use suse-linux-e@suse.com Silviu, Thanks for vote to opensuse-project :-) BTW, suse-linux-e with >100 messages daily is not good place for installation problems, as they affect mostly beginners that

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Saturday 10 June 2006 14:11, Adrian Schröter wrote: > Does it make sense to create this list ? Yes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Monday 12 June 2006 02:32, jim tate wrote: > Suse-10.1 x86_64 , AMD Athlon-X2, ECS Elitegroup Nforce4-A939 motherboard. This list is not appropriate for installation problems. Please use suse-linux-e@suse.com - To unsubscri

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 June 2006 21:12, jim tate wrote: [...] > Suse will create the partitions if none are on harddrive during > installation. > > Jim > > - Sure, SuSE will do that, but, a big BUT, you can override that with Custom Expert

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Rajko M
jim tate wrote: BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 19:32, jim tate wrote: Suse-10.1 x86_64 , AMD Athlon-X2, ECS Elitegroup Nforce4-A939 motherboard. The five cd's passed the md5sum and media test. Run normal install or shutdown Apci and install still freezes while installing packages, a

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 11 June 2006 21:11, J Sloan wrote: > BTW, whoever told you to use cylinders as the unit of partition size was > playing a mean trick on you. A "very, very mean trick" is more like it. ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 11 June 2006 20:55, BandiPat wrote: > And you don't have to recreate them again later??? Why delete them with > one Linux, just to recreate them with another? I'm confused. I agree with Lee. Seems like you're creating more work for yourself, Jim. I haven't seen one important issue add

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread jim tate
BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 20:42, jim tate wrote: [...] When you get to the area of setting partitions, etc., click on the title Partitions where you can continue to Expert/Custom partitioning. - To unsubscribe

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread J Sloan
jim tate wrote: > Yes, I have been there,but when you delete old partitions you have to > enter new ones before you can leave the > partitioning and save. Setting up new partitions using cyclinders x 512 > is to time consuming, it's easier to use > Knoppix and fdisk to delete partitions. How co

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread Carl Hartung
On Sunday 11 June 2006 20:42, jim tate wrote: > Yes, I have been there,but when you delete old partitions you have to > enter new ones before you can leave the > partitioning and save. Setting up new partitions using cyclinders x 512 > is to time consuming, it's easier to use > Knoppix and fdisk to

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 June 2006 20:42, jim tate wrote: [...] > >When you get to the area of setting partitions, etc., click on the > > title Partitions where you can continue to Expert/Custom > > partitioning. > > > > > >- To unsubscribe, e

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread jim tate
BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 June 2006 19:32, jim tate wrote: Suse-10.1 x86_64 , AMD Athlon-X2, ECS Elitegroup Nforce4-A939 motherboard. The five cd's passed the md5sum and media test. Run normal install or shutdown Apci and install still freezes while installing packages, and on no certain

Re: [opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 June 2006 19:32, jim tate wrote: > Suse-10.1 x86_64 , AMD Athlon-X2, ECS Elitegroup Nforce4-A939 > motherboard. The five cd's passed the md5sum and media test. > Run normal install or shutdown Apci and install still freezes while > installing packages, and on no certain cd. > sometimes

[opensuse] Installation problems,10.1 X86_64

2006-06-11 Thread jim tate
Suse-10.1 x86_64 , AMD Athlon-X2, ECS Elitegroup Nforce4-A939 motherboard. The five cd's passed the md5sum and media test. Run normal install or shutdown Apci and install still freezes while installing packages, and on no certain cd. sometimes I can get packages to install and go into post setups

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
> >This can only be achieved by setting at least some of them individually. > As said, I corrected it now. The unset LANG was originally there to have LC_TIME and LC_COLLATE be POSIX, but that can be done in sysconfig. Jan Engelhardt -- ---

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Jan Engelhardt schrieb: > I cannot use RC_ALL in a meaningful way, as this is what I want > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 > LC_NUMERIC=POSIX > LC_TIME=POSIX > LC_COLLATE=POSIX > LC_MONETARY=POSIX > LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 > LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 > LC_NAME=POSIX > LC_ADDRESS=POSIX > LC

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
>> Thanks for letting me know. It is somewhere between intended and >> old-cruft-code. The original reason for it was to have >> >> [...] >> >> all of these fields be POSIX. > >Use LC_ALL if your intention is to override everything. > I cannot use RC_ALL in a meaningful way, as this is what I wa

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread Martin Schlander
Søndag 11 juni 2006 21:25 skrev jdd: > Rajko M wrote: > > First time moderation, or approved members, what is the difference? > > Someone takes time to read the mail and let poster subscribe, or not. > > very small in work (all the first time users needs to hit a > moderator), but quite important f

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Jan Engelhardt schrieb: > Thanks for letting me know. It is somewhere between intended and > old-cruft-code. The original reason for it was to have > > [...] > > all of these fields be POSIX. Use LC_ALL if your intention is to override everything. Andreas Hanke --

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
>> My part in that aaa_base is only DIR_COLORS and a profile.sh. Other than >> that, everything else was taken from SUSE's package as-is. > >there is an interesting line in the file /etc/hxtools_profile.sh added >by the .as3 package: > >unset LANG; > Thanks for letting me know. It is somewhere bet

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Jan Engelhardt schrieb: > My part in that aaa_base is only DIR_COLORS and a profile.sh. Other than > that, everything else was taken from SUSE's package as-is. there is an interesting line in the file /etc/hxtools_profile.sh added by the .as3 package: unset LANG; This matches exactly the p

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale (fwd)

2006-06-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
>since the last update via smart the language/encoding setting RC_LANG does >not work anymore. Even though RC_LANG is set to de_DE.UTF-8 >in /etc/sysconfig/language and all other LC_* variables are empty, the >command locale outputs >... > My part in that aaa_base is only DIR_COLORS and a profi

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread jdd
Rajko M wrote: First time moderation, or approved members, what is the difference? Someone takes time to read the mail and let poster subscribe, or not. very small in work (all the first time users needs to hit a moderator), but quite important for the user. There is no need of dealing with

Re: [opensuse] I want to wipe Linspire from a box and install Suse

2006-06-11 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Sunday 11 June 2006 00:04, jim tate wrote: > I purchased a Linspire5.0 box from Fry's for a $150.00 and I don't care > for Linspires ploy > of charging a fee for downloading Open Source software. Because you don't seem to understand what you're paying for. You're not paying for the software, y

Re: [opensuse] yum update service in Suse-10.1 Updater

2006-06-11 Thread david
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, jim tate wrote: >> Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: >>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, jim tate wrote: Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, jim tate wrote: > >> Right clicking on Suse Updater>Configure>Services>AddServices> >

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Sven Jacobs schrieb: >> Repairing this mess again will be a great pleasure. > > Fortunately it wasn't! I disabled the apt-repository and downgraded aaa_base. > Everything works fine again! You're lucky: aaa_base has a long post-install scriptlet, downgrading of packages with long post-insta

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-11-06 12:49]: > Already found out: It somes from the suser-jengelh repository. This > repository contains modified versions of some very important base > packages and is targetted at experts only. Don't use it unless you know > exactly what you are doing. >

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Sven Jacobs
> > Where does the .as3 package come from? It is definitely not a SUSE > > package. > > Already found out: It somes from the suser-jengelh repository. This > repository contains modified versions of some very important base > packages and is targetted at experts only. Don't use it unless you know >

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Andreas Hanke schrieb: > Where does the .as3 package come from? It is definitely not a SUSE > package. Already found out: It somes from the suser-jengelh repository. This repository contains modified versions of some very important base packages and is targetted at experts only. Don't use it

Re: [opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Sven Jacobs schrieb: > This is the output of smart query --installed --name aaa_base > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure if aaa_base is the right place to look at. But there's definitely something wrong because aaa_base is installed twice. Where does t

[opensuse] Problems with RC_LANG / locale

2006-06-11 Thread Sven Jacobs
Hello, since the last update via smart the language/encoding setting RC_LANG does not work anymore. Even though RC_LANG is set to de_DE.UTF-8 in /etc/sysconfig/language and all other LC_* variables are empty, the command locale outputs LANG= LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POS

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: Adrian Schröter wrote: A moderated list would cause a big load on the moderators we do not invent this, it works for others... But I could imagine a list only for approved subscribers could we stand for a _first time mail_ moderation.? mails will be moderated only the first t

Re: [opensuse] yum update service in Suse-10.1 Updater

2006-06-11 Thread jim tate
Peter Flodin wrote: On 6/11/06, jim tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In yast2 you have the "ServerName" and "Directory on Server" and what ever you put in it won't accept. http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/suse/update/10.1 There has got to be a better way. Thanks for your help guys. Yes instead of ad

Re: [opensuse] Package manager update tomorrow ...

2006-06-11 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! The online update seems to work now after that update. However, I have 2 issues left: 1. Please run the parsing metadata and other stuff at login time nice'd. 2. On a laptop (maybe because of slower hard disk) during boot, there is a long time between entering runlevel 5 (screen turns b

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread jdd
Adrian Schröter wrote: A moderated list would cause a big load on the moderators we do not invent this, it works for others... But I could imagine a list only for approved subscribers could we stand for a _first time mail_ moderation.? mails will be moderated only the first time it's sen

Re: [opensuse] yum update service in Suse-10.1 Updater

2006-06-11 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Sunday 11 June 2006 01:58 schrieb jim tate: > Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, jim tate wrote: > >> Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: > >>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, jim tate wrote: > Right clicking on Suse Updater>Configure>Services>AddServices> > The headings: > >>

Re: [opensuse] Communication to the community and others

2006-06-11 Thread Siegbert Baude
Thomas Hertweck schrieb: > > houghi wrote: > > [...] > > The issue is still, I believe, that communication is lacking and > > lacking seriously. > So you > need to somehow convince them that this is necessary/beneficial and > you should come up with a list in what area and in which way the > comm

Re: [opensuse] opensuse-project ?

2006-06-11 Thread Siegbert Baude
Adrian Schröter schrieb: > > I did not really find out, if the opensuse-project mailing list > > suggestion was liked or not. > > > > Please protest now, if you think it does not make sense to found > > this list or the list name is wrong. > > > > Does it make sense to create this list ? Yes, I t