Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-02-07 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 14:12, M Harris wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 00:38, you wrote: > > I can't imagine that you think the world will convert to Ogg just because > > you would like that to happen.  The world will use MP3, and you will be > > sitting there with your thumb up the usual

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-31 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 00:38, you wrote: > I can't imagine that you think the world will convert to Ogg just because > you would like that to happen.  The world will use MP3, and you will be > sitting there with your thumb up the usual place.  Get real! Being rude an inconsiderate does

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-31 Thread M Harris
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 02:30, Carlos E. R. wrote: > No, cameras use jpg because it compress much more - at a cost, it is a > lossy format. The comparable alternative to gif is png, not jpg. Yeah, I know. But there was a time when GIF was considered as an option for first quali

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-31 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-01-31 at 00:43 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > > > Not to mention xmms2 > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmms2/ > > > > Which is still at the alpha state after four years development. > > One could almost say the same ab

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-31 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 31 January 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 19:29 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > > > > You might want to take a look at www.xmms.org. Seems they are still > > > working on it. Last release was 1.2.10 which is higher than the one > > > left on sourceforge. Update

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-31 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 19:29 -0900, John Andersen wrote: > > You might want to take a look at www.xmms.org. Seems they are still > > working on it. Last release was 1.2.10 which is higher than the one > > left on sourceforge. Updates on the news

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Hans van der Merwe
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 19:16 +, Peter Nikolic wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > > > xmms is dead, get over it. > > > > > -- > > -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ > > /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > _\_v The more

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 30 January 2007, Mike wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 21:11, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > > > > xmms is dead, get over it. > > > > > > Now at one time i thought this bloke was an alright bloke now > > > however he has become a

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 15:08, Pascal Bleser wrote: > Peter Nikolic wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > >> xmms is dead, get over it. > >> > >> -- > >> -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ > >> /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 16:10 -0500, Charles philip Chan wrote: > On 30 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > which is still at version 0.2, alpha state > > (). It is not a valid > > replacement yet. > >

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan S. Tyson wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 1:21 am, Pascal Bleser wrote: >> xmms is dead, get over it. > > What do you mean that xmms is dead? > > Xmms is still my favorite music player and accounts for 90% of my listening > time. The other

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Nikolic wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > >> xmms is dead, get over it. > >> -- >> -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ >> /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> _\_v The more

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Charles philip Chan
On 30 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > which is still at version 0.2, alpha state > (). It is not a valid > replacement yet. I didn't say it was a valid replacement yet. I am just stating the fact that development have not stopped. > It is not the only

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 15:28 -0500, Charles philip Chan wrote: > On 30 Jan 2007, robin.listas@ wrote: > > > Pascal is not expressing an opinion, but a fact. The developement of > > XMMS has stopped, therefore, it is dead. Have a look at the proje

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Mike
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 21:11, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > > > xmms is dead, get over it. > > > > Now at one time i thought this bloke was an alright bloke now > > however he has become a nobody. > > > > Like it or not there is simply NO real

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Charles philip Chan
On 30 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pascal is not expressing an opinion, but a fact. The developement of > XMMS has stopped, therefore, it is dead. Have a look at the project > page at : the last release is > dated Jan 2002. This is only because devel

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 19:16 -, Peter Nikolic wrote: > On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > > > xmms is dead, get over it. > > Now at one time i thought this bloke was an alright bloke now however he has > become a nobo

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 06:21, Pascal Bleser wrote: > xmms is dead, get over it. > -- > -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ > /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. Now at one time i thought this bl

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Mike
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 10:00, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > > Listen, your post was pretty high on the trollmeter, and "As more > > people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely > > getting solved faster."... wth ? That's an understatement.. > Thanks for bring this hotter ;) Wait un

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 17:15 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > This is a very very helpful approach. I thank you very much for what you > have done. There is still a question in my head, maybe I am stupid: > > There is a link in your page and it linke

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-01-30 at 17:00 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > ? 2007-01-30?? 07:21 +0100,Pascal Bleser??: ... > > - - you really think you're the first person asking for this ? > > > > And the solution is right here: > > http://opensuse-community.org/

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Bryan S. Tyson
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 1:21 am, Pascal Bleser wrote: > xmms is dead, get over it. What do you mean that xmms is dead? Xmms is still my favorite music player and accounts for 90% of my listening time. The other 10% I use Amarok. I would be very disappointed if xmms died. However, it still se

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread jdd
Zhang Weiwu wrote: work on this wiki page and add a link to a page introducing how to enable mp3 on Novell using mad and lame and all mp3 decode library I know. So I should ignore this warning, right? no the wiki is endorsed by Novell and Novell is an american company and must comply with U

(typo corrected) Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
> legal here because I don't think there is an mp3 patent in China. > Reverse engineer is also perfectly legal here (welcome to China!). So, I s/Reverse engineer/Reverse Engineerring/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
在 2007-01-30二的 09:39 +0100,jdd写道: > Zhang Weiwu wrote: > > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > > I noticed that if the installation of openSUSE is pretty easy, there > are "post install" operation not so well documented and very usefull. > > So I wrote this

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Zhang Weiwu
在 2007-01-30二的 07:21 +0100,Pascal Bleser写道: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Zhang Weiwu wrote: > > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > > to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. > > As more people start payi

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread jdd
Zhang Weiwu wrote: I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) I noticed that if the installation of openSUSE is pretty easy, there are "post install" operation not so well documented and very usefull. So I wrote this page: http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_and

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-01-29 at 23:21 -0600, M Harris wrote: > My point is that most folks today do not make GIFs. The whole patent > thing > forced (and I'm thinking digital cameras here) to store the camera data as > JPEG. So today the GIF is mos

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zhang Weiwu wrote: > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. > As more people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely > getting sol

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread M Harris
On Monday 29 January 2007 22:15, John Andersen wrote: > Seems to me that the GIF issue died because the patent died, which will > also happen to mp3 patents circa 2011 give or take a year or two. My point is that most folks today do not make GIFs. The whole patent thing forced (and I'm th

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 29 January 2007, M Harris wrote: > Eventually this issue will die--- like the GIF issue has died... most > folks > use JPEG now. Seems to me that the GIF issue died because the patent died, which will also happen to mp3 patents circa 2011 give or take a year or two. According

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread M Harris
On Monday 29 January 2007 21:50, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Point a link to wikipedia to a Chinese guy? Oh, we are not as free to > access information as you thought. My apologies. I sent some text to you directly. I hope it helps to answer some of your questions. -- Kind regards,

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread Zhang Weiwu
在 2007-01-29一的 21:48 -0600,M Harris写道: > On Monday 29 January 2007 20:49, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > > to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. > > As more people start paying attention on issues th

Re: [opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread M Harris
On Monday 29 January 2007 20:49, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. > As more people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely > getting solved faster. An

[opensuse] (incomplete) list of possibilities (and impossibilities) to play mp3 on SuSE 10.2

2007-01-29 Thread Zhang Weiwu
I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. As more people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely getting solved faster. And this post is for the users who look for an answer like me: