On Oct 30 2007 16:46, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Because everyone knows that the disk
drive/SATA-bus/controller/PCI-bus/DMA are the limiting factors in raw
dd speed, so who cares how the kernel/app are compiled.
But dd doesn't write to disk... it writes to buffers
held in RAM, and then forgets
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Especially since currently, memory modules are still
only 32 bits wide...motherboard manufacturers are at
liberty to make the external data bus either 32 bits
or 64 bits wide.
???
I thought memory was 64 bits wide these days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM
If
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
I've just done a 64bit Boot test while it doesn't really answer your
question it
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64 bit?
Do we have a list of software
On Tuesday 30 October 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems
very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not
work because of driver issues is worth it.
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 08:11 -0700, Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical
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* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
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Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps plugins are still 32bit only.
I believe that this is fluff and not fact. There are a few apps which
On 10/30/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
[...]
Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps plugins are still 32bit only.
I believe
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
[...]
Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps plugins are still 32bit only.
I believe that this is fluff and not fact. There are a
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64 bit?
Do we
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
[...]
Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps plugins are still 32bit only.
I believe that this
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 09:42, Russell Jones wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:58, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
[...]
Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very
fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
Has anyone run
On Oct 30 2007 13:46, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Surprisingly (to me at least) we are seeing a speed improvement with a
specialized version of dd (dcfldd) going against raw disks.
ie. dcfldd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k and dcfldd if=/dev/sdc
of=/dev/null bs=4k
Bottleneck: Disk. You cannot really
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64 bit?
Here is a benchmark of 32 bit vs 64 bit openSuSE 10.3 on a Core 2 Duo
system.
I have both 32 bit and 64 bit versions installed in separate partitions
on the same system with all updates applied.
I ran my
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not work
because of driver issues is worth it.
Has
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64
bit?
I only notice the difference when loading and editing big photos using gimp
over nfs. Use 64 bit for nfs. Otherwise you can't tell.
L x
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On Tuesday 30 October 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 11:54]:
[...]
Moving to full 64bit should indeed be a better choice, you would
think, yet many of apps plugins are still 32bit only.
I believe that this is fluff and not fact. There are a few
On Oct 30 2007 14:42, Buddy Coffey wrote:
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64 bit?
I have both 32 bit and 64 bit versions installed in separate partitions
on the same system with all updates applied.
I ran my computationally intensive code GEMACS
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very
fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some
On 10/30/07, Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 30 2007 13:46, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Surprisingly (to me at least) we are seeing a speed improvement with a
specialized version of dd (dcfldd) going against raw disks.
ie. dcfldd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k and dcfldd
On Dienstag 30 Oktober 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems
very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not
work because of driver issues is worth it.
I think also that 64bit software runs better on a
On Oct 30 2007 22:00, Frank Fiene wrote:
On Dienstag 30 Oktober 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems
very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software not
work because of driver issues is worth it.
I think
On Dienstag 30 Oktober 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Oct 30 2007 22:00, Frank Fiene wrote:
On Dienstag 30 Oktober 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It
seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of having some software
On Oct 30 2007 22:30, Frank Fiene wrote:
Funny thing: the driver connects to the backend via a socket, so
this is bad designed Software which depends on the architecture,
like 32bit mysql-client cannot connect to a 64bit mysql-server! :-(
File a bug, then. :)
Oh, i've spoken to Ludovic
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 14:24, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
...
again, perception, not fact as Jan has noted.
Jan's points have little to do with mine. Move twice as much data to
perform a given task with the same bus and memory hardware will take
twice as long.
My points had nothing
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* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 17:51]:
Jan's points have little to do with mine. Move twice as much data to
perform a given task with the same bus and memory hardware will take
twice as long.
but it's not the same bus
My points
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 15:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 17:51]:
Jan's points have little to do with mine. Move twice as much data
to perform a given task with the same bus and memory hardware will
take twice as long.
but it's not the same
On Oct 30 2007 15:09, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 15:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 17:51]:
Jan's points have little to do with mine. Move twice as much data
to perform a given task with the same bus and memory hardware will
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:11:08 Robert Lewis wrote:
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64 bit?
Yes (a little). See:
http://www.hermit.org/Linux/Benchmarking/
Ian
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On Tuesday 30 October 2007, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-30-07 16:06]:
True, Patrick, my thoughts are not due to actual experience with 64
bit hardware, but certainly it seems that most tests and articles
to be found confirm no big improvement by using 64 bit
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 14:24, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
...
again, perception, not fact as Jan has noted.
Jan's points have little to do with mine. Move twice as much data to
perform a given task with the same bus and memory hardware will take
twice as long.
My
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
On 10/30/07, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Lewis wrote:
I recently bought a 64 bit machine and have 10.3 loaded . It seems very fast.
I am trying to appraise if the advantages of
On Dienstag 30 Oktober 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Oct 30 2007 22:30, Frank Fiene wrote:
Funny thing: the driver connects to the backend via a socket, so
this is bad designed Software which depends on the architecture,
like 32bit mysql-client cannot connect to a 64bit mysql-server!
On Mittwoch 31 Oktober 2007, Ian Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:11:08 Robert Lewis wrote:
Has anyone run benchmarks on an identical system with 32 bit vrs 64
bit?
Yes (a little). See:
http://www.hermit.org/Linux/Benchmarking/
Hey, great benchmarks.
As expected but
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