On Wednesday 27 December 2006 12:49, JB wrote:
> 90% of humanity anymore only cares about
> what they want right then and there, not about 'learning' anything anymore.
Once upon a time I liked to read history books and what I remember is that
majority never liked to learn more than an absolute
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 11:25, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 December 2006 10:39, Simon Roberts wrote:
> > - Original Message
> >
> > > > Randall R Schulz a écrit :
> > > > > Once you buy software, you should not be expected to also buy
> > > > > training in the use of that s
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 23:45, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 December 2006 15:25, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > Cooking and photography are arts. Using a computer should not be.
>
> Well, since when making scrambled eggs, or using point and click camera is
> art, and some people mis
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 December 2006 11:11, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> > ...
>>
>> > There certainly is an issue of expectations management, but
>> > remember, this all started out by me saying that I thought the
>> > software profession has not done a good en
* Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-12-27 17:27]:
>
> Only reasonable as long as the intended use of the computer is as simple
> as the intended use of a car (e.g. transport from A to B).
Also, every people accept that you must go from time to time with your
car to a garage. With computers, ev
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Cooking and photography are arts.
Really? That makes my wife and I both artists. We both cook and take
pictures.
> Using a computer should not be. You have to distinguish, say, writing
> a novel or a screen play from operating word-processing software. The
> former i
Randall R Schulz wrote:
How about: If someone buys a computer and/or needs a setup to use
that "Internet thingy", he or she must either spend effort to learn
it or pay money to buy the setup service. Thus, if you don't know
how to install a Linux computer -- or a Windows computer, for that
matt
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 15:25, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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> Cooking and photography are arts. Using a computer should not be.
Well, since when making scrambled eggs, or using point and click camera is
art, and some people miss even that little skills.
Computer is complex device that can
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The Tuesday 2006-12-26 at 13:25 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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> Cooking and photography are arts. Using a computer should not be. You
> have to distinguish, say, writing a novel or a screen play from
> operating word-processing software. The f
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 10:39, Simon Roberts wrote:
> - Original Message
>
> > > Randall R Schulz a écrit :
> > > > Once you buy software, you should not be expected to also buy
> > > > training in the use of that software.
>
> You can't expect to buy the software and the training at t
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 11:11, Per Jessen wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
>
> > There certainly is an issue of expectations management, but
> > remember, this all started out by me saying that I thought the
> > software profession has not done a good enough job. And it hasn't.
>
> I th
Randall R Schulz a écrit :
And no one is required to know about how modern (or even primitive)
automobile technologies really work. They rightly expect to buy a car,
fuel it up, drive it around, give it periodic maintenance and
occasional repair (it's a mechanical device, and wear and failure
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 December 2006 09:14, jdd wrote:
>>
>> when you buy a car, you may have a licence, and this mean
>> you may have learned to drive it
>
> Of course. But once you've learned to drive, the knowledge you have is
> pretty much equally applicable to all cars out t
- Original Message
> > Randall R Schulz a écrit :
> > > Once you buy software, you should not be expected to also buy
> > > training in the use of that software.
You can't expect to buy the software and the training at the price of the
software alone. Particularly if the software is free
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 09:14, jdd wrote:
> Randall R Schulz a écrit :
> > Once you buy software, you should not be expected to also buy
> > training in the use of that software.
>
> when you buy a car, you may have a licence, and this mean
> you may have learned to drive it
Of course. But onc
Michael Nelson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 10:38:10AM -0600, John Pierce wrote:
>
>> Back about 1998 I was a newbie, I remember my first install and the
>> fun I had. I installed Redhat downloaded and did the rpm install. I
>> got the the log in prompt and logged in as root. I had no clu
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 10:38:10AM -0600, John Pierce wrote:
> Back about 1998 I was a newbie, I remember my first install and the
> fun I had. I installed Redhat downloaded and did the rpm install. I
> got the the log in prompt and logged in as root. I had no clue how to
> do even a simple dire
Randall R Schulz a écrit :
Once you buy software, you should not be expected to also buy training
in the use of that software.
when you buy a car, you may have a licence, and this mean
you may have learned to drive it
computers are particular things, because they can do simple
things AND d
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 08:04, Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
>
> > Shame on us! (By which I mean us programmers and software
> > developers!)
>
> I don't agree with that sentiment.
I'm really only criticizing the job that the software profession (of
which I am and
Back about 1998 I was a newbie, I remember my first install and the
fun I had. I installed Redhat downloaded and did the rpm install. I
got the the log in prompt and logged in as root. I had no clue how to
do even a simple directory listing. I went back to windows and surfed
the web, i found s
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 25 December 2006 07:19, Mathias Homann wrote:
...
Now, imagine an internet where all users know what they're doing...
How much do you know about the fabrication and / or the internal
function of these ordinary things or systems:
- Automobiles
- Farms
- Foo
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