[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-10 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Doug McGarrett wrote: Fully agreed Although I confess being a silent PC geek and there is hardly anything that nerves me more than noisy PCs that I must work with for hours , this does not apply to keyboards. This is typed on a Model M style keyboard with 122 keys that I got from ebay

[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-09 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for silence? Anyone has any input to this? Any sites that can help

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-09 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Thursday 09 August 2007 03:48, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for

[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi It's time to find me a new machine for home office and related work. But what is the best choice right now? It's a tough one. I need to balance the requirements and make choices like - 32 or 64? If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could be discussed, otherwise 64bit is what you get. Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? : How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Clayton
If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could be discussed, otherwise 64bit is what you get. Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? It depends on how you define problems. You can run a complete

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Casey Stamper
On 8/8/07, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could be discussed, otherwise 64bit is what you get. Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? It depends on

[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could be discussed, otherwise 64bit is what you get. Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? : Just to clarify: I understood the OP's

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
Imho, for a desktop nowadays, it comes very close to be the most important consideration since it is the machine's noisiness that either supports or distracts my mental attention. Doesn't it (mostly) come down to CPU heat production? (And btw. which 64 bit CPU is using least power)? --

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kaare Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-08-07 05:15]: If you are buying secondhand or very low down, this question could be discussed, otherwise 64bit is what you get. Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? Yes, but

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread James Knott
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Imho, for a desktop nowadays, it comes very close to be the most important consideration since it is the machine's noisiness that either supports or distracts my mental attention. Doesn't it (mostly) come down to CPU heat production? (And btw. which 64 bit CPU is

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Andy Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? Yes, but there are 32-bit versions of FireFox and flash that work fine on the x86_64 systems.

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Andy Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08-08-07 11:50]: On 8/8/07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Yes, but there are 32-bit versions of FireFox and flash that work fine on the x86_64 systems. I use 32-bit FireFox on my x86_64 system w/o a problem. Can you elaborate a little more on this? I just

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread James Knott
Andy Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Aren't there still problems with some applications, plugins for Firefox, binary drivers for graphics adapters? Yes, but there are 32-bit versions of FireFox and flash that work

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Andy Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/8/07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: I have *no* idea :^( but the first place I would look is in the is the Preferences - Advanced - Network - Connection all I did was install the 32-bit edition originally from the iso, and updated

[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Imho, for a desktop nowadays, it comes very close to be the most important consideration since it is the machine's noisiness that either supports or distracts my mental attention. Doesn't it (mostly) come down to CPU heat production? (And btw. which 64 bit CPU is

[opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Imho, for a desktop nowadays, it comes very close to be the most important consideration since it is the machine's noisiness that either supports or distracts my mental attention. Doesn't it (mostly) come down to CPU heat production? (And btw. which 64 bit CPU is

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for silence? Anyone has any input to this? Any sites that can help me with the

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread James Knott
Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 08 August 2007 05:03, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Kaare Rasmussen wrote: Hi One missing thing in your list imho: How silent will your computer need to be and what will you be able to spend for silence? Anyone has any input to this? Any sites that can help

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 14:12, Eberhard Roloff wrote: ... From my perspective, A good start for reading on the subject could be this: http://www.silentpcreview.com/ Should you be able to read and understand german, I would definitely recommend www.silenthardware.de Also:

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 17:47, James Knott wrote: ... I bought some a few years ago, for $5 each. Oh, please tell me where! There hasn't been a good keyboard since, as far as I can recall. Maybe I should spend more time at Weird Stuff (http://www.weirdstuff.com/)... RRS -- To

Re: [opensuse] Re: New desktop

2007-08-08 Thread Clayton
As regards silence, the old IBM keyboards are absolutely the most wonderful and loud keyboards in existance. Some electronics/computer/ham-radio fleamarkets have these. If noise is no object, get one! They seem to last forever. No Windows keys, but you probably wouldn't care. I swear by