Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-19 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Bolt wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:- It might also be possible to use a named pipe as the output for tar and input for growisofs but, as I haven't tried that yet, I don't know for certain if that would work. snip I

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-18 Thread David Bolt
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:- snip Our point was that if you are only saving a single file, you do not need to format the DVD, not as UDF, not as ISO, nor as anything at all. Ie, you can burn it raw. You simply go to k3b and tell it to burn a dvd image file, and give

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-17 at 04:15 +0100, David Bolt wrote: ... see if I could find anything about it, just observed it. Here's a quick example[0]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/packages/SOURCES ls -l total 173652 -rw--- 1 davjam users 67072000

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 10:00 pm, Sunny wrote: OK, I followed the thread from the beginning, and I still can not understand the requirements. How exactly you use Nero, so it is so helpful (how does it tell you where to split the tar?)? Hiya Sunny. Nero won't tell me how to split my file.

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote: The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 13:18 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Hello guys, snip It would also be possible to burn the tar file raw, meaning absolutely no directory overhead: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=sometarfile.tar

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Sunny
On 10/17/07, Jorge Fábregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's not. K3b uses mkisofs to generate its images and mkisofs does not support udf-only filesystems. Try to burn a 4GB file in K3b and you'll see. According to release notes for 10.3: cite Tools to Write Optical Disc Media (CD-ROM and

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, G T Smith wrote:- snip You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work in the same way as it would with a tape device in this scenario... Would you mind letting

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Bolt wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, G T Smith wrote:- snip You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work in the same way as

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, G T Smith wrote:- snip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/packages/SOURCES sudo mount /dev/hdc /mnt root's password: mount: you must specify the filesystem type snip Hmmm... you mounted the media, umount then try It was a completely blank DVD+R, there was no file system on

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G T Smith wrote: David Bolt wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, G T Smith wrote:- snip You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 17 2007 16:01, G T Smith wrote: You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work in the same way as it would with a tape device in this scenario... That only works with certain

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, G T Smith wrote:- snip OK, on my old and now dead DVD device this worked with -c (dunno why suspect it was rather slow so one could get a constant data stream)... Does not work on the newer replacement without -cz and then unreliably (get an I/O error)..but files are

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 17:01:18 G T Smith wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 13:18 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Hello guys, snip It would also be possible to burn the tar file raw, meaning absolutely no directory overhead: growisofs -Z

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:- On Oct 17 2007 16:01, G T Smith wrote: You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work in the same way as it would with a tape device in

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 17 2007 16:01, G T Smith wrote: You do not need dd (or mount), tar with with the DVD/CD device name as target does it nicely for reading (and writing). I would expect multi-volume tar to work in the same way as it

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 21:37 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Tuesday 16 October 2007 8:42 pm, David Bolt wrote: Capacity for a DVD+R is 4,700,372,992 bytes[0], 4,482.625MiB or 4.378GiB. A DVD+RDL has (quite) a bit less than double the +R

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Wednesday 17 October 2007 6:53 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: Our point was that if you are only saving a single file, you do not need to format the DVD, not as UDF, not as ISO, nor as anything at all. Ie, you can burn it raw. You simply go to k3b and tell it to burn a dvd image file, and give

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-17 at 19:30 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Wednesday 17 October 2007 6:53 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: Our point was that if you are only saving a single file, you do not need to format the DVD, not as UDF, not as ISO, nor as

[opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hello guys, I need to split a big tar into a couple of files so I can burn them on DVD+R media. I use Nero for this because it allows me to use UDF as the filesystem (allowing me to burn one BIG file). Considering that a DVD+R holds 4483MB (without overburn), how big should I split my big

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 10/16/07, Jorge Fábregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello guys, I need to split a big tar into a couple of files so I can burn them on DVD+R media. I use Nero for this because it allows me to use UDF as the filesystem (allowing me to burn one BIG file). Considering that a DVD+R holds

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 16 2007 14:51, Greg Freemyer wrote: A slightly different question. Yesterday I had 9GBs of small files (about 115,000 files in one dir) to burn to DVD. Too big to fit on a single Dual Layer DVD by a few hundred GB, and almost too big to fit on 2 single layer DVDs. Is there a tool that

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 10/16/07, Jan Engelhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 16 2007 14:51, Greg Freemyer wrote: A slightly different question. Yesterday I had 9GBs of small files (about 115,000 files in one dir) to burn to DVD. Too big to fit on a single Dual Layer DVD by a few hundred GB, and almost too

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-16-07 14:52]: Yesterday I had 9GBs of small files (about 115,000 files in one dir) to burn to DVD. Too big to fit on a single Dual Layer DVD by a few hundred GB, and almost too big to fit on 2 single layer

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 13:18 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Hello guys, I need to split a big tar into a couple of files so I can burn them on DVD+R media. I use Nero for this because it allows me to use UDF as the filesystem (allowing me to

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:- The Tuesday 2007-10-16 at 13:18 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: Hello guys, I need to split a big tar into a couple of files so I can burn them on DVD+R media. I use Nero for this because it allows me to use UDF as the filesystem (allowing me to burn

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-17 at 01:42 +0100, David Bolt wrote: Considering that a DVD+R holds 4483MB (without overburn), 4700 MB or 4.59 MiB. Hum, I should have written 4.377 GiB, my thick fingers on the calculator :( Capacity for a DVD+R is

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Sunny
On 10/16/07, Jorge Fábregas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Carlos David. My point really is...knowing this I can't simply split my big tar file in chunks of 4,482.625 MiB's because I need to consider the filesystem overhead (UDF in my case). I really want to use Nero because I like it's

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread Bob S
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 05:03:43 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-16-07 14:52]: Yesterday I had 9GBs of small files (about 115,000 files in one dir) to burn to DVD. Too big to fit on a single Dual Layer DVD by a few hundred GB, and almost too big to fit

Re: [opensuse] Split command to burn DVD+R (file size)

2007-10-16 Thread David Bolt
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Carlos E. R. wrote:- The Wednesday 2007-10-17 at 01:42 +0100, David Bolt wrote: There is just one slight problem. You can't verify the burn using md5sum if tar uses the default block size. You need to set tar to use a 32KiB block size so it matches the default block size