Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-31 Thread Thomas Hertweck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] > I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the > following (understanding?) problem: > > When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories > > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/ > or > http://dow

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread olit
Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 08:11:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the >> following (understanding?) problem: >> >> When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories >> >> http://download

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 08:11:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the > following (understanding?) problem: > > When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories > > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Ker

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 December 2007 01:11:37 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the > following (understanding?) problem: > > When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories > > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/V

[opensuse] Kernel updates for new kernels

2007-12-30 Thread olit
Hello! I read a lot about kernel updates in this list, but I still have the following (understanding?) problem: When I install a new kernel from on of the repositories http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/openSUSE_10.3/ or http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/HE

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-09 Thread Mohsen Rezayatmand
Not only grub but also lilo is being effected, that is if you are using lilo and lilo.conf look at my lilo.conf. good think I saw it before I reboot the system (SuSE 10.2): # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Thu Nov 8 09:15:38 EST 2007 menu-scheme = Wb:kw:Wb:Wb timeout = 600 lba32 chang

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread eddie
On Thursday 08 November 2007 21:54:06 Jeff Mahoney wrote: > Jeff Mahoney wrote: > > Randall R Schulz wrote: > >> On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:20, Marcus Meissner wrote: > >>> ... > >>> > What is causing this and how can I fix it? > >>> > >>> What is in /boot/grub/devices.map ? Is /dev/sdb l

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread David C. Rankin
Randall R Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Every installation of a kernel, including the 10.2 -> 10.3 upgrade, the > first available and today's kernel updates have put entries like these > in my GRUB menu.lst file (note the "root(...)" directives): > > -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--=

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Jeff Mahoney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Mahoney wrote: > Randall R Schulz wrote: >> On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:20, Marcus Meissner wrote: >>> ... What is causing this and how can I fix it? >>> What is in /boot/grub/devices.map ? Is /dev/sdb listed there as hd0? >> 2635# pwd >>

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Jeff Mahoney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:20, Marcus Meissner wrote: >> ... >>> What is causing this and how can I fix it? >> What is in /boot/grub/devices.map ? Is /dev/sdb listed there as hd0? > > 2635# pwd > /boot/grub > 2636# > 263

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:20, Marcus Meissner wrote: > ... > > > > What is causing this and how can I fix it? > > What is in /boot/grub/devices.map ? Is /dev/sdb listed there as hd0? 2635# pwd /boot/grub 2636# 2636# ll total 312 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10 2007-03-05 12:13 default -rw-

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Ben Kevan
> > Don't understand that. I updated a friend's couple of hours back and > his drives are identified by the other scheem, (hd1,4). > > -- > Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 I am with Patrick. Every since update / upgrade of the Kernel i've done since 1

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 01:01:53PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > Every installation of a kernel, including the 10.2 -> 10.3 upgrade, the > first available and today's kernel updates have put entries like these > in my GRUB menu.lst file (note the "root(...)" directives): > > -==--==-

Re: [opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-08-07 16:03]: > -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- > ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### > title openSUSE 10.3 - 2.6.22.12-0.1 > root (/de

[opensuse] Kernel Updates Put Bad Device Names In "/boot/grub/menu.lst"

2007-11-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hi, Every installation of a kernel, including the 10.2 -> 10.3 upgrade, the first available and today's kernel updates have put entries like these in my GRUB menu.lst file (note the "root(...)" directives): -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- ###Don't change this co

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 29 2007 14:00, Marcus Meissner wrote: >> > Or you could use 10.2 plus a 3rd-party 2.6.22. Webpin will tell. >> >> Webpin? I found http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/ >> >> Is that what you mean? What 3rd party kernel package does all the other >> things needed to go from 2.6.13 to 2.6.2

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 14:00 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: > You can use the 2.6.22 kernel from 10.3 on 10.2. Only thing affected is likely > udev/hal. Seems like a big 'only thing' :) -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stoc

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:58:51PM +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:48 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > >On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > > > > > >> I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:48 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > >On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > > > >> I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for > >> Beta3 > >> (Sept. 6th). That way you get all softwa

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Aug 29 2007 08:09, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: >On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > >> I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for >> Beta3 >> (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work >> well, there is good old 10.0 i

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-29 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 8/29/07, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > > > I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for > > Beta3 > > (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work > > well, there is goo

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 18:28 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > I would rather install on another partition Beta 2 or wait few days for Beta3 > (Sept. 6th). That way you get all software updated and if it doesn't work > well, there is good old 10.0 installation. We are planning our SUSE release support f

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 22:21 +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > I know that this is a topic that gets endless questions. Perhaps because > > a mistake can be so problematic. Here goes mine: > > > > I am running an openSUSE 10.0 system with kernel 2.6.13-15.16-default. > >

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-28 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 04:21:16 pm Thomas Hertweck wrote: > Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > > I know that this is a topic that gets endless questions. Perhaps because > > a mistake can be so problematic. Here goes mine: > > > > I am running an openSUSE 10.0 system with kernel 2.6.13-15.16-default. >

Re: [opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-28 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > I know that this is a topic that gets endless questions. Perhaps because > a mistake can be so problematic. Here goes mine: > > I am running an openSUSE 10.0 system with kernel 2.6.13-15.16-default. > This is a rather recent security-fixed kernel. But still the 2.6.13 t

[opensuse] Kernel updates

2007-08-28 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Hello I know that this is a topic that gets endless questions. Perhaps because a mistake can be so problematic. Here goes mine: I am running an openSUSE 10.0 system with kernel 2.6.13-15.16-default. This is a rather recent security-fixed kernel. But still the 2.6.13 that came with 10.0. I am loo

RE: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-04-16 at 10:40 +0200, Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: > Disks today are so big that there are very few reasons to > keep tiny /boot partitions so you can't manage several > kernels around. Yes, on new systems. An older one will have smaller

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 19:19 +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > Marcus Meissner wrote: > > [...] > > All other distros do the same as far as I know. > > Care to give an example where this is not the case? > > My Fedora system does not remove old kernels when a kernel update is > installed via yum, the

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Marcus Meissner wrote: > [...] > All other distros do the same as far as I know. > Care to give an example where this is not the case? My Fedora system does not remove old kernels when a kernel update is installed via yum, the default software management tool. It just adds a new entry in the boot

RE: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Morten Bjørnsvik
|-Original Message- |From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Well, "rpm -i" of the kernel works for openSUSE 10.2 and SLES |10 too in this regard. | |What does Redhats automated updater do? | I was unsure so I tested it on a not updated system with default up2date config: (I

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 10:40:54AM +0200, Morten Bjørnsvik wrote: > |From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |All other distros do the same as far as I know. > |Care to give an example where this is not the case? > > On our RHEL production systems we download the kernel > and then insta

RE: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-16 Thread Morten Bjørnsvik
|From: Marcus Meissner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |All other distros do the same as far as I know. |Care to give an example where this is not the case? On our RHEL production systems we download the kernel and then install them via 'rpm -i ' Then it leaves both kernels bootable via grub. The new "

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/04/16 07:32 (GMT+0200) Marcus Meissner apparently typed: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 04:46:08PM -0700, STDIN wrote: >> Why are previous kernels deleted from the system when doing a kernel update? >> I know of no other distro that has that behavior. I'd think you'd want to >> have the old

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 04:46:08PM -0700, STDIN wrote: > Why are previous kernels deleted from the system when doing a kernel update? > I know of no other distro that has that behavior. I'd think you'd want to > have the old kernel available in case the update bombs or doesnt work > properly.

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-15-07 22:00]: > The Sunday 2007-04-15 at 20:14 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > I don't know how you are doing it, but on my system I have to remove > > the older kernels/sources. There are t many. > > Yast does as he describes, has always done so as f

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-04-15 at 20:14 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > I don't know how you are doing it, but on my system I have to remove > the older kernels/sources. There are t many. Yast does as he describes, has always done so as far as I rememb

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
STDIN wrote: > Why are previous kernels deleted from the system when doing a kernel update? > I know of no other distro that has that behavior. I'd think you'd want to > have the old kernel available in case the update bombs or doesnt work > properly. > > When doing a kernel update and getting

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* STDIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-15-07 19:48]: > Why are previous kernels deleted from the system when doing a kernel > update? I know of no other distro that has that behavior. I'd think > you'd want to have the old kernel available in case the update bombs > or doesnt work properly. > > When

[opensuse] kernel updates

2007-04-15 Thread STDIN
Why are previous kernels deleted from the system when doing a kernel update? I know of no other distro that has that behavior. I'd think you'd want to have the old kernel available in case the update bombs or doesnt work properly. When doing a kernel update and getting the new source its also

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-02-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 15:35 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD has only the >> > kernel package, no kernel-source package (which I will need for ATi >> > drivers and the like). >> >> That should get

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-02-12 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 15:35 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD has only the > > kernel package, no kernel-source package (which I will need for ATi > > drivers and the like). > > That should get changed IMO. Which, the URL/content, or the fact

Re: [opensuse] kernel updates

2007-02-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi guys, > > I haven't had to do this in ages, and with Mantel gone, I'm not sure > where to find "official unofficial" kernels for SUSE. > > ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD has only the > kernel package, no kernel-source package

[opensuse] kernel updates

2007-02-12 Thread Hans du Plooy
Hi guys, I haven't had to do this in ages, and with Mantel gone, I'm not sure where to find "official unofficial" kernels for SUSE. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD has only the kernel package, no kernel-source package (which I will need for ATi drivers and the like). And