On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:49:49AM +0100, jdd wrote:
> absolutely. and the wortst is that it's the IP of the
> serveur that is asked for, not the name, and this is not
> trivial for a beginner
The hardest part is finding the correct place in the first place. I just
looked and could not find the co
houghi wrote:
> That does not mean that it can not be improved, because it can. Instead of
> the need to enter the mirror yourself, a pre-selection
> (download.opensuse.org?) with the correct directory as default would be
> very helpfull. Mmm. Will look into it and open a request in bugzilla.
abs
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:04:55PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> I dont know. But again: Newbies and boot.iso...
It only needs 1 (one) extra step. to point it to the correct mirror. After
that it is the same as the DVD installation. I have explained it to
newbies and they were answering back from
On 03/22/2006 09:10 PM houghi wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:26:56PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
>> And the minority is what we should aim at, when we want to decrease
>> the FTP-load.
>
> How does a 3CD download compare to a standard FTP installation with
> boot.iso when you look at FTP-loa
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 12:26:56PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > In both cases he does not have to worry that he wants non-English or
> > non-German as a language. That might still be the majority of the people
> > in the world.
>
> And the minority is what we should aim at, when we want to dec
houghi schrieb:
> I would say Mr. Newbie would be better of to download the DVD. That way he
> does not need to see if it lacks anything.
> Well, ideally, the best Mr. Newbie does is go to the store and buy the
> boxed set. That way he has all that is also availanle via FTP, including
> the non-OSS
On 03/21/2006 11:50 PM houghi wrote:
> I would say Mr. Newbie would be better of to download the DVD. That way he
> does not need to see if it lacks anything.
If he has a DVD Drive. I was referring to the people that want the CD.
People with DVD drives will probably get that one, if their interne
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 08:15:09PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> Boot.iso is for "advanced" users, I would say. Mr. Newbie would be
> better off to download CD1-3, and see if it lacks anything he needs.
> But he will be able to setup a "normal" System with that. And if he
> doesn't need anything,
On 3/21/2006 7:59 PM houghi wrote:
> I understand they are not "complete". I was refereing to just downloading
> what you need. For many people CD 4-5 are needed due to the language they
> want to install in.
Yes, for others the first 3CDs would be enough.
> I asume just downloading CD1-3 instea
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 07:40:08PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 3/21/2006 3:41 PM houghi wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 03:15:55PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > I understand the reasoning.
> >
> >> Most people try not to download the whole thing. If you only need the
> >> first three,
On 3/21/2006 3:41 PM houghi wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 03:15:55PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> I understand the reasoning.
>
>> Most people try not to download the whole thing. If you only need the
>> first three, then download them. Then you have everything you need to
>> start installin
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 03:15:55PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> The only reason I was thinking about it:
I understand the reasoning.
> Most people try not to download the whole thing. If you only need the
> first three, then download them. Then you have everything you need to
> start installin
On 03/21/2006 02:58 PM houghi wrote:
> I call that a lot of lonks for one distribution. Also the 6CD link can not
> be given, so that will become the 5CD link. I don't call that 'just'.
Oh, I forgot about that 6CD thing.
> The only difference I see are the 6 extra links for the individual CDs. A
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 12:19:40PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> And then it is just
> 2 Links (FTP, torrent) for the DVD
> 2 Links for each of the 6 CDs
> 1 Link for the 6CD-Torrent
>
> 15 Links.
I call that a lot of lonks for one distribution. Also the 6CD link can not
be given, so that will b
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 02:58:03PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> I call that a lot of lonks for one distribution.
Links might be a better word. ;-)
houghi
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On 03/19/2006 10:59 AM Per Jessen wrote:
> Johannes Kastl wrote:
>> Hm, how do you say "schwafeln" in english? ;-)
> "to waffle" is a good approximation.
Thanks.
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On 03/18/2006 09:49 PM houghi wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:14:35PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
>> Isnt there a 1CD-Minimal installation?
>
> yes, but the defauklt wich most people will use is 3 CD's. There also is
> the boot.iso wich is even smaller.
Sharing the smaller images will not b
jdd wrote:
Rajko M wrote:
Azureus is very complex, and I would need time to learn it.
I used configuration option for advanced users,
that is probably wrong if you mean to work for beginner.
I got the two 5 cd sets (beta 8 and stable) in less than
24h, what I think is a good result
and I th
Rajko M wrote:
> Azureus is very complex, and I would need time to learn it.
> I used configuration option for advanced users,
that is probably wrong if you mean to work for beginner.
I got the two 5 cd sets (beta 8 and stable) in less than
24h, what I think is a good result
and I think the 900
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Rajko M wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Torrent, according to their web site, is answer to overloaded
central servers (FTP,HTTP). Even if there will be no security risks,
than setting p2p seeder on FTP server is just against basic idea.
jdd wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
So a well-working p2p network really could help a bit.
this is a major point.
Explaining is only one half
well... it's the only one where I can really help :-).
I noticed that it is today really difficult to find the
Bittorent method on the wiki. I w
Johannes Kastl wrote:
> Hm, how do you say "schwafeln" in english? ;-)
"to waffle" is a good approximation.
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Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> So a well-working p2p network really could help a bit.
this is a major point.
> Explaining is only one half
well... it's the only one where I can really help :-).
I noticed that it is today really difficult to find the
Bittorent method on the wiki. I will fix that
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Rajko M wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Torrent, according to their web site, is answer to overloaded central
servers (FTP,HTTP). Even if there will be no security risks, than setting
p2p seeder on FTP server is just against basic idea.
This sounds a little bit p
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Torrent, according to their web site, is answer to overloaded central
servers (FTP,HTTP). Even if there will be no security risks, than
setting p2p seeder on FTP server is just against basic idea.
This sounds a little bit puristic.
The spotted "server overload" ph
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:51:12PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> shame azureus is not in SUSE 10.0 (or my sources are not
> uptodate) because it's available from all the platforms
> (java program), so the instructions are nearly the same for
> all systems (native bittorrent is not so flexible, ktorrent
> sti
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:34:52PM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> >FULL ACK. Should we start thinking of a good hierarchy where the betas
> >wont confuse the "end user"?
>
> No. Just intuitive names for the directories - just like it is.
> But one single point as "the" top of "the" download h
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:13:24PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> But I must say this is something for "advanced users". I would
> recommend to have single torrents, so nobody gets confused about it.
> Remember the load of questions about which DVD to download? I fear
> this might come back.
With
Johannes Kastl wrote:
>> We need a "non-splitted" mirror hierarchy at least, and less questions
>> (and answering needs) in the mailing lists about "where is what" and
>> "not here, but there".
>
> FULL ACK. Should we start thinking of a good hierarchy where the betas
> wont confuse the "end use
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:14:35PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 03/18/2006 03:39 PM houghi wrote:
>
> > As I want to share later, this is not really an option.
>
> ACK.
>
> > Perhaps a 3-CD torrent might be a nice idea, as those are the only ones
> > that are really needed.
>
> Isnt there
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:25:21PM +0100, Robert Schiele wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:12:08PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> > On 03/17/2006 11:49 PM Martin Schlander wrote:
> >
> > > Some (most? all?) BT-clients like Azureus offer the option to *not*
> > > download
> > > all the files in
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
On 03/17/2006 11:59 PM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Best would be to re-unite the whole project under ftp.suse.com.
This splitting is against any nature - just born out of marketing aspects,
and the goal is reached.
Hm, on second thought you are
On 03/17/2006 11:59 PM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Best would be to re-unite the whole project under ftp.suse.com.
> This splitting is against any nature - just born out of marketing aspects,
> and the goal is reached.
Hm, on second thought you are right, too.
> My interest (and whole thinking
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:12:08PM +0100, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 03/17/2006 11:49 PM Martin Schlander wrote:
>
> > Some (most? all?) BT-clients like Azureus offer the option to *not*
> > download
> > all the files in a torrent.
>
> Which is not as user-friendly as having 5 torrents. IMHO.
On 03/18/2006 12:37 AM jdd wrote:
> nobody can do anything on your server (I hope this for you :-)
lol ;-)
> I think the main problem will not to lauch a BT server on
> the ftp server, that's easy, the problem is to convince the
> admin that this will not give him problems, security,
> bandwith.
On 03/18/2006 03:39 PM houghi wrote:
> As I want to share later, this is not really an option.
ACK.
> Perhaps a 3-CD torrent might be a nice idea, as those are the only ones
> that are really needed.
Isnt there a 1CD-Minimal installation?
> OTOH it could become confusing if there are too many
On 03/18/2006 08:18 AM David Bolt wrote:
> With Azureus there's no need. You can stop it from downloading any of
> the ISOs by using Show details -> Files and then right-clicking on the
> ones you don't want to download. This pops up a menu and, by choosing
> Set priority -> Do not download, Azure
On 03/17/2006 11:49 PM Martin Schlander wrote:
> Some (most? all?) BT-clients like Azureus offer the option to *not* download
> all the files in a torrent.
Which is not as user-friendly as having 5 torrents. IMHO.
How about 1 complete torrent and 5 for the 5 CDs (or are there 6 CDs?).
OJ
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 05:21:00PM +0100, Robert Schiele wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:52:21PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> > OK. At least a specific name then. Now I get my Beta8 ISO's in my Beta6
> > directory.
>
> Only if you use the same base directory for both versions.
And I do. I just use
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:52:21PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> OK. At least a specific name then. Now I get my Beta8 ISO's in my Beta6
> directory.
Only if you use the same base directory for both versions.
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:05:59PM +0100, Robert Schiele wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:43:17PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> > I think the naming of the torrent should be different. Now I always still
> > have the old ISO's in iso and delta-iso. It would be nicer to have them
> > indeed by default i
Hello,
Am Samstag, 18. März 2006 11:53 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
[...]
> > Yes, we see that mirror admins typically don't do this but what
> > exactly is the _reason_ that they don't run a seeder? For example
> > why don't _you_ run one?
>
> Just by
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:43:17PM +0100, houghi wrote:
> I think the naming of the torrent should be different. Now I always still
> have the old ISO's in iso and delta-iso. It would be nicer to have them
> indeed by default in /SL-10.1-beta8/delta-iso/ and not just /delta-iso
>
> Nicer, not some
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:59:44AM +, David Bolt wrote:
> On the server you admin, the latest delta ISOs are in
> /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1-beta8/delta-iso/
>
> I'm using Azureus to seed them and they're residing in
> /media/WD_USB_2/downloads/delta-iso
I think the naming of the torr
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Rajko M wrote:
Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:35:01AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
As we see, almost no server admins are doing this.
The best way would be to enhance the p2p clients so that they can "speak"
ftp or http and fetch some pieces v
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 07:18:19AM +, David Bolt wrote:
> With Azureus there's no need. You can stop it from downloading any of
> the ISOs by using Show details -> Files and then right-clicking on the
> ones you don't want to download. This pops up a menu and, by choosing
> Set priority -> Do n
Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:35:01AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
As we see, almost no server admins are doing this.
The best way would be to enhance the p2p clients so that they can "speak"
ftp or http and fetch some pieces via ftp or http protocol.
Well, some clien
Hello,
Robert Schiele wrote:
Yes, we see that mirror admins typically don't do this but what exactly is the
_reason_ that they don't run a seeder? For example why don't _you_ run one?
Two things:
- performance: on a high traffic ftp server you want to serve your
client as quickly as possib
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:35:01AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
As we see, almost no server admins are doing this.
The best way would be to enhance the p2p clients so that they can "speak"
ftp or http and fetch some pieces via ftp or http pr
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> The best way would be to enhance the p2p clients so that they can
> "speak" ftp or http and fetch some pieces via ftp or http protocol.
I sent a mail to the Bittorrent staff quoting our
discussion. may be they will have a clue
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 10:35:01AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> As we see, almost no server admins are doing this.
> The best way would be to enhance the p2p clients so that they can "speak"
> ftp or http and fetch some pieces via ftp or http protocol.
Well, some clients actually can do th
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:59:44AM +, David Bolt wrote:
[0] I've no idea how you'd do it with other command-line clients, nor
with Ktorrent, but it's very easily done with Azureus. Of course, the
only problem with using Azureus, or Ktorrent,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:-
>On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:59:44AM +, David Bolt wrote:
>> [0] I've no idea how you'd do it with other command-line clients, nor
>> with Ktorrent, but it's very easily done with Azureus. Of course, the
>> only problem with using
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 08:59:44AM +, David Bolt wrote:
> [0] I've no idea how you'd do it with other command-line clients, nor
> with Ktorrent, but it's very easily done with Azureus. Of course, the
> only problem with using Azureus, or Ktorrent, would be the requirement
> to have a graphical
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:-
>Hi,
>
>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, jdd wrote:
>> Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
>>> If not, we simply need a better p2p protocol - which does not design a
>>> future neglecting the presence.
>>
>> nobody can do anything on your server (I
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Johannes Kastl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:-
>On 3/16/2006 5:49 PM houghi wrote:
>
>> So to conclude:
>> bittorrent might be the worst choice for most people due to several
>> factors:
>> 1) It is slower then FTP
>> 2) You download 5 CD's instead of the needed 3
>
>Then do torre
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, jdd wrote:
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
ftp server admins usually do not have experience with p2p clients, at
least not during their job.
the problem may not be here
I know; it is not here, but "there" - at the p2p protocol designers. ;-))
So let me ask in my full
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> ftp server admins usually do not have experience with p2p clients, at
> least not during their job.
the problem may not be here
>
> So let me ask in my full naivity:
>
> Can't "you" seed files which reside on "my" ftp server?
of course not
>
> If not, we simply
Hi,
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
On 3/17/2006 8:55 AM jdd wrote:
can't a ftp server be a BT seeder?
It should be no problem. The FTP-Server's owner has to start seeding,
and I dont know if that is normal. It should be.
ftp server admins usually do not have experience with p2
Hi,
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Johannes Kastl wrote:
On 3/13/2006 4:57 PM houghi wrote:
I have posted earlier, but it might have been drowend that a solution
might be to have the following:
ftp.suse.com (and mirrors) for final products.
ftp.opensuse.org (and mirrors) for beta's and factory.
Good
On Friday 17 March 2006 23:35, Johannes Kastl wrote:
> On 3/16/2006 5:49 PM houghi wrote:
> > bittorrent might be the worst choice for most people due to several
> > factors:
> > 1) It is slower then FTP
> > 2) You download 5 CD's instead of the needed 3
>
> Then do torrents for each CD. So everybo
On 3/17/2006 8:55 AM jdd wrote:
> can't a ftp server be a BT seeder?
It should be no problem. The FTP-Server's owner has to start seeding,
and I dont know if that is normal. It should be.
OJ
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On 3/17/2006 1:23 PM Peter Czanik wrote:
> From this I see, that a torrent seeder network should also be organized
> next to the ftp mirrors. Preferably by the ftp mirror sites, but if they
> can't handle this, then by student/staff of nearby universities. Europe
I was hoping that would happen wh
On 3/17/2006 1:57 AM houghi wrote:
> Also people tend not to keep seeding omce they recieved. At this moment
> there are 6 delta-iso seeders and 11 iso seeders. There are more FTP
> mirrors then that.
Then lets change that disaster.
"People, keep seeding."
OJ
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On 3/16/2006 5:49 PM houghi wrote:
> So to conclude:
> bittorrent might be the worst choice for most people due to several
> factors:
> 1) It is slower then FTP
> 2) You download 5 CD's instead of the needed 3
Then do torrents for each CD. So everybody gets only the ones he wants.
OJ
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On 3/13/2006 4:57 PM houghi wrote:
> I have posted earlier, but it might have been drowend that a solution
> might be to have the following:
> ftp.suse.com (and mirrors) for final products.
> ftp.opensuse.org (and mirrors) for beta's and factory.
Good idea.
OJ
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On 3/13/2006 5:44 PM jdd wrote:
> personally I think we all should use bitorrent. With a good
> amount of users it's nearly as fast as ftp. At least we
> should strobgly advocate so (and advocate keeping bittorent
> open all the time)
FULL ACK.
OJ
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
[...]
> That's a bug somewhere in our config or scripts. Christoph, can you
> check this, please?
... found another typo in the config -- fixed. ;)
Regards
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Hello,
houghi írta:
>> I'm one of those, seeding iso and delta iso files for all architectures.
>> And I'm running it on a constantly running ftp server. How can I see the
>> number of seeders?
>>
> That might depend on your torrent client. With Azureus you just look at
> your screen.
>
Go
"Peter Flodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm...
> http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1-beta8/iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta8-i386-CD1.iso
> just directed me to:
>
> http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1-beta8/iso/distribution/SL-10.1-beta8/iso/SUSE-Linux-10.1-beta8-
On 3/17/06, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > jdd wrote:
> >
> >> when a new version is released, it's often impossible to
> >> join the ftp site... and most mirrors are _not_ uptodate.
> >
> > Beta8 was released yesterday - mirror.switch.ch is
Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> Just use the download.opensuse.org URL and you get automatically
>> redirected to a mirror...
>
> Personally I always use the SWITCH mirror - the URL sems to have gotten
> stuck in my mind. :-)
> Just for fun I tried download.op
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Just use the download.opensuse.org URL and you get automatically
> redirected to a mirror...
Personally I always use the SWITCH mirror - the URL sems to have gotten
stuck in my mind. :-)
Just for fun I tried download.opensuse.org - on the first try I got
redirected to ht
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:14:30AM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
> Beta8 was released yesterday - mirror.switch.ch is already updated, I'm
> retrieving Beta8 just now. ftp.solnet.ch/mirror is also updated.
> Ignore ftp.mirror.ac.uk - they seem to be way behind, not even if
> they're actively mirroring
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:25:24AM +0100, Peter Czanik wrote:
> I'm one of those, seeding iso and delta iso files for all architectures.
> And I'm running it on a constantly running ftp server. How can I see the
> number of seeders?
That might depend on your torrent client. With Azureus you just l
Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> jdd wrote:
>
>> when a new version is released, it's often impossible to
>> join the ftp site... and most mirrors are _not_ uptodate.
>
> Beta8 was released yesterday - mirror.switch.ch is already updated, I'm
> retrieving Beta8 just now. ftp.solnet.ch/mir
Per Jessen wrote:
> jdd wrote:
>
>> Per Jessen wrote:
>>
>>> Nope - the upload is usually set at max 30k, and doesn't go much
>>> beyond
>>> 50K anyway. Downloading an ISO from the SWITCH mirror, I get a
>>> rocksolid 156K/s, with bittorrent I've rarely seen more than 50.
>> when a new version is
Hello,
houghi írta:
> Also people tend not to keep seeding omce they recieved. At this moment
> there are 6 delta-iso seeders and 11 iso seeders. There are more FTP
> mirrors then that.
>
I'm one of those, seeding iso and delta iso files for all architectures.
And I'm running it on a constantl
jdd wrote:
> when a new version is released, it's often impossible to
> join the ftp site... and most mirrors are _not_ uptodate.
Beta8 was released yesterday - mirror.switch.ch is already updated, I'm
retrieving Beta8 just now. ftp.solnet.ch/mirror is also updated.
Ignore ftp.mirror.ac.uk - th
jdd wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
>
>> Nope - the upload is usually set at max 30k, and doesn't go much
>> beyond
>> 50K anyway. Downloading an ISO from the SWITCH mirror, I get a
>> rocksolid 156K/s, with bittorrent I've rarely seen more than 50.
>
> when a new version is released, it's often imp
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:26:55PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> I got 10Mb down and 1Mb up band. up seems to be quite
> constant upon users (when the down slows with distance)
>
> but so, it needs ten seeding users for one downloading.
Indeed, however there is FTP bandwith available. It is a pity that can
On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 07:10:12AM +1100, Peter Flodin wrote:
> I have always assumed this is because most home broadband users (ADSL
> & Cable in my part of the world) are assymetrical,
That is what the A in ADSL stands for. ;-)
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Peter Flodin wrote:
> I have always assumed this is because most home broadband users (ADSL
> & Cable in my part of the world) are assymetrical, so their upload
> speed is quite slow compared to their download speed.
I got 10Mb down and 1Mb up band. up seems to be quite
constant upon users (when
On 3/17/06, houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It just seems there is more bandwith available for FTP then there is for
> torrent.
>
> houghi
I have always assumed this is because most home broadband users (ADSL
& Cable in my part of the world) are assymetrical, so their upload
speed is quite slo
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:21:56PM +0100, Peter Czanik wrote:
> I think, that beta testers should organize mirrors :-) I have one up to
> date mirror in Hungary, and I keep it up to date, as it's my best
> interest.
Not all have the possibilaty to do that. Also this is not so much about
FTP. It
Hello,
jdd wrote:
Nope - the upload is usually set at max 30k, and doesn't go much beyond
50K anyway. Downloading an ISO from the SWITCH mirror, I get a
rocksolid 156K/s, with bittorrent I've rarely seen more than 50.
when a new version is released, it's often impossible to
join the ftp
Per Jessen wrote:
> Nope - the upload is usually set at max 30k, and doesn't go much beyond
> 50K anyway. Downloading an ISO from the SWITCH mirror, I get a
> rocksolid 156K/s, with bittorrent I've rarely seen more than 50.
when a new version is released, it's often impossible to
join the ftp s
Bjørn Lie wrote:
> Since you are french jdd, 2 ours sounds just about right ;)
some bears are reintroduced in the Pyrenes, not far from
where I live :-)
jdd
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Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-16-06 05:47]:
>> houghi wrote:
>> > When bittorrentdownload is around 50K and FTP download is around
>> > 500K, there is no real incentive to use bittorrent. What I do is
>> > download via FTP and then seed them.
>>
>> Yep, exactly th
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:03:16PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
>
> > Yep, exactly the same here. Bittorrent is slw as far as the
> > opensuse IOSs go.
>
> I recently downloaded 600Mo in two ours with bittorrent (not
> from openSUSE), so bittorrent is not the problem.
>
> the prob
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-16-06 05:47]:
> > houghi wrote:
> > > When bittorrentdownload is around 50K and FTP download is around 500K,
> > > there is no real incentive to use bittorrent. What I do is download
> > > via F
* Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-16-06 05:47]:
> houghi wrote:
> > When bittorrentdownload is around 50K and FTP download is around 500K,
> > there is no real incentive to use bittorrent. What I do is download
> > via FTP and then seed them.
>
> Yep, exactly the same here. Bittorrent is slooo
Torsdag 16 mars 2006 13:21, skrev jdd:
> jdd wrote:
> > Per Jessen wrote:
> >> Yep, exactly the same here. Bittorrent is slw as far as the
> >> opensuse IOSs go.
> >
> > I recently downloaded 600Mo in two ours
>
> two hours :-)
>
> jdd
Since you are french jdd, 2 ours sounds just about right
jdd wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
>
>> Yep, exactly the same here. Bittorrent is slw as far as the
>> opensuse IOSs go.
>
> I recently downloaded 600Mo in two ours
two hours :-)
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Per Jessen wrote:
> Yep, exactly the same here. Bittorrent is slw as far as the
> opensuse IOSs go.
I recently downloaded 600Mo in two ours with bittorrent (not
from openSUSE), so bittorrent is not the problem.
the problem is that there must be many users to the system
to be fast.
This is
houghi wrote:
>> personally I think we all should use bitorrent. With a good
>> amount of users it's nearly as fast as ftp. At least we
>> should strobgly advocate so (and advocate keeping bittorent
>> open all the time)
>
> When bittorrentdownload is around 50K and FTP download is around 500K,
>
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 05:44:36PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> > As ftp.opensuse.org will most likely have less downloads
>
> less download, but very concentrated when new release come
The same will happen for a new full version.
> personally I think we all should use bitorrent. With a good
> amount of
houghi wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:22:31PM +0100, jdd wrote:
>> jdd wrote:
>>> As french I'm writing very politely to any main miror site I
>>> know
>> in France, of course
>
> You could write in other countries as well. ;-)
I dont want to duplicate others efforts. I would be
desastrous i
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:22:31PM +0100, jdd wrote:
> jdd wrote:
> > As french I'm writing very politely to any main miror site I
> > know
> in France, of course
You could write in other countries as well. ;-)
I think it is still confusing for mirror maintainers to have two mirror
structors for
jdd wrote:
> As french I'm writing very politely to any main miror site I
> know
in France, of course
jdd
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