Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-12 Thread Linda Walsh
Aaron Kulkis wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 02:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: Both have good man pages. And "info" pages. Gack! WTF is with the FSF and their insistance on scrimping on the man pages, and only putting the detailed documentation in the info pages. And wor

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-12 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 23:07:01 Linda Walsh wrote: > Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > Randall R Schulz wrote: > >> On Tuesday 11 December 2007 02:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Both have good man pages. > >>> > >>> And "info" pages. > >> > >> Gack! > > > > WTF is with the FSF and their insistance on

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-12 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 15:14, Anders Johansson wrote: > ... > > using the info:/ url in konqueror makes reading info pages less like > a nightmare > > To read the info page for bc in a format that won't make you cry, > just go to info:/bc in konqueror That is what I do when I must read info

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-12 Thread François Pinard
[Randall R Schulz] On Wednesday 12 December 2007 15:14, Anders Johansson wrote: ... using the info:/ url in konqueror makes reading info pages less like a nightmare To read the info page for bc in a format that won't make you cry, just go to info:/bc in konqueror That is what I do when I

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-13 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-12-12 at 22:59 -0500, François Pinard wrote: I'm surprised when people say that it is a nightmare to read Info format documentation, as it is really a very simple thing to do, for anyone with any small drop of good will. Night

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-13 Thread Anders Johansson
On Thursday 13 December 2007 04:59:19 François Pinard wrote: > But I'm kidding a bit, and know that some people who cannot stand Info > are mouse addicts, while "info" requires the keyboard. For those who do > not know, the keyboard is that big huge mouse next to the usual one, > absolutely full o

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-13 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-14 at 01:01 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: I work primarily with the keyboard, that's not what it's about info, for whatever reason, chose to have a completely different set of key bindings from any other application known to m

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-13 Thread Stephan Hegel
Hi, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Forget 'info', use 'pinfo'. It is intuitive, uses colors, displays > either man or info pages, depending on what it finds really nice. I've tried it. Surely better to operate than info, especially it has vi key bindings for basic operations. But how to search for keyw

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 14:46 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Friday 2007-12-14 at 04:27 +0100, Stephan Hegel wrote: > > Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> Forget 'info', use 'pinfo'. It is intuitive, uses colors, displays > >> either man or info pages, depending on what it finds really nice. > > I've tri

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-14 at 04:27 +0100, Stephan Hegel wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: Forget 'info', use 'pinfo'. It is intuitive, uses colors, displays either man or info pages, depending on what it finds really nice. I've tried it. Surely better

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-14 at 10:31 -0500, François Pinard wrote: Yes. Info pages are one by-product of Texinfo format, which also can produce laser-printable manuals, and HTML pages. At the very beginning, some people were writing Info pages direct

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread François Pinard
[Dave Howorth] there are lots of websites that contain HTML-formatted man pages. Are there any sites that have HTML-formatted info pages (preferably all pages for one app on one HTML page :) ? Yes. Info pages are one by-product of Texinfo format, which also can produce laser-printable manu

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 10:31 -0500, François Pinard wrote: > [Dave Howorth] > > > there are lots of websites that contain HTML-formatted man pages. Are > > there any sites that have HTML-formatted info pages (preferably all > > pages for one app on one HTML page :) ? > > Yes It's good to know

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread François Pinard
[François Pinard] I see two reasons for why one would want one bulky [HTML] page (I'm curious to know if there are other reasons): Oh, I just thought of a third: because one wants to read all documentation by paging through it in the browser, from beginning to end, while they would have to c

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-14 at 16:28 -, Dave Howorth wrote: It's good to know that it's theoretically possible but it doesn't answer my question. "Are there any sites that have HTML-formatted info pages". Yes, localhost. ie, your own machine. You

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 20:00 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The Friday 2007-12-14 at 16:28 -, Dave Howorth wrote: > > > It's good to know that it's theoretically possible but it doesn't answer > > my question. "Are there any sites that ha

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-14 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-14 at 19:42 -, Dave Howorth wrote: http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2html Ah, thanks for that. It looks good but when I click on any link it says: File IO Error The Info file could not be opened for reading. Me too... and

Re: [opensuse] religion of info (was: Bash script problem regarding with some math)

2007-12-15 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 01:48 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Friday 2007-12-14 at 19:42 -, Dave Howorth wrote: > > >> http://localhost/cgi-bin/info2html > > > > Ah, thanks for that. It looks good but when I click on any link it says: > > File IO Error > > The Info file could not be opened fo