[opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-12 Thread Peter Van Lone
I have used the terms samba and cifs as essentially interchangeable. However lately on the list I have seen postings that discuss cifs as being "not fully baked" despite that SUSE has shifted to it ... I've done some googling, but the sheer volume of site having to do with these topics is over-wh

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-12 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 12 March 2007, Peter Van Lone wrote: > Can someone provide me a quick high-level description of the > distinguishing characteristics? > Samba is a service that allows you to PUBLISH shares for other computers to mount. smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to MOUNT

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-12 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Samba is a service that allows you to PUBLISH shares for other computers to mount. smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to MOUNT a share published by a samab server or a windows box. (perhaps to do a backup or some such)

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-12 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 12 March 2007, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Samba is a service that allows you to PUBLISH shares for other > > computers to mount. > > > > smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to > > MOUNT a share published by a s

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-13 Thread Dan Winship
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 00:01 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to > > MOUNT a share published by a samab server or a windows > > box. (perhaps to do a backup or some such) > > ahh .. ok,

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-13 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 06:37:48 am Dan Winship wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 00:01 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > > On 3/12/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > smbfs and cifs are file systems that allow your Linux box to > > > MOUNT a share published by a samab server or a windows

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Abrahams
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 9:37 am, Dan Winship wrote: > > The distinction you *can* make is between "smbfs", which is an old, > unmaintained and partly-broken SMB/CIFS client kernel module for Linux, > and "cifs", which is a newer, actively-developed SMB/CIFS client kernel > module for Linux. The fa

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-13 Thread David Brodbeck
Paul Abrahams wrote: > If that's the case, then the sensible path is to use smbfs for now and switch > to cifs whenever it becomes interchangeable with smbfs for whatever one is > doing. > I suspect part of the reason they switched is large file support. smbfs doesn't have it, cifs does. (I

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-14 Thread kanenas
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:19, Paul Abrahams wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 9:37 am, Dan Winship wrote: > > The distinction you *can* make is between "smbfs", which is an old, > > unmaintained and partly-broken SMB/CIFS client kernel module for Linux, > > and "cifs", which is a newer, actively

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-14 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:00:03PM -1000, kanenas wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:19, Paul Abrahams wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 9:37 am, Dan Winship wrote: > > > The distinction you *can* make is between "smbfs", which is an old, > > > unmaintained and partly-broken SMB/CIFS client

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-14 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 22:49 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > I have used the terms samba and cifs as essentially interchangeable. > However lately on the list I have seen postings that discuss cifs as > being "not fully baked" despite that SUSE has shifted to it ... > > I've done some googling, but

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-14 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, kanenas wrote: > Someone at novel must have been able to predict  or even after the fact see > that removing smbfs AND usbfs support from the kernel is bound to lead into > at least some 10.2 sales losses. The fact that a recompile is required is > guarranteed to turn so

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-14 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: > "sales losses" are quite difficult for a product that is mostly downloaded. > > The next 10.2 kernel update will include USBFS again btw. Cool, use support returns for Vmware. How soon? -- _ John Andersen

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-15 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-15-07 01:10]: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > "sales losses" are quite difficult for a product that is mostly downloaded. > > > > The next 10.2 kernel update will include USBFS again btw. > > Cool, use support returns for Vmware. Ho

Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?

2007-03-16 Thread Russell Jones
John Andersen wrote: But Open Source should not have these problems. That's why its open. Anybody can pick it up and maintain it. It still has the advantage that there isn't abandonware and cemeteryware, i.e. products that are dead /and/ buried. These projects can be picked up, whilst cl

Kernel Modules (WAS: Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?)

2007-03-14 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 01:05:26 am Marcus Meissner wrote: > > Someone at novel must have been able to predict or even after the fact > > see that removing smbfs AND usbfs support from the kernel is bound to > > lead into at least some 10.2 sales losses. The fact that a recompile is > > require

Re: Kernel Modules (WAS: Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?)

2007-03-14 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 14:45, Kai Ponte wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 01:05:26 am Marcus Meissner wrote: > > > Someone at novel must have been able to predict or even after the fact > > > see that removing smbfs AND usbfs support from the kernel is bound to > > > lead into at least some

Re: Kernel Modules (WAS: Re: [opensuse] samba vs cifs ... what's the diff?)

2007-03-14 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 01:21:03 pm Anders Johansson wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 14:45, Kai Ponte wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 01:05:26 am Marcus Meissner wrote: > > > > Someone at novel must have been able to predict or even after the > > > > fact see that removing smbfs AND u