Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-16 Thread Susanne Oberhauser
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do they also change the behaviour of replying messages? I mean, it > would be nice to have the quoted text. GW (ok, I admit, I still have > 6.5 SP5) is a bit a pain, as TopPosting is not welcome > (understandable), but GW does not even indent t

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-14 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> Susanne Oberhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/14/06 5:04 PM >>> >"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I for my part am using GroupWise (is also from Novell, just in case > somebody wonders) and there this option just does not exist. > >It's in the works: https://bugzilla.novell

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-14 Thread Susanne Oberhauser
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I for my part am using GroupWise (is also from Novell, just in case > somebody wonders) and there this option just does not exist. It's in the works: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=145856 would some thunderbird user to report t

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread houghi
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 04:28:16PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday, August 13, 2006 at 15:43:06, houghi wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > > > indeed, that is true. BUT: unfortunately not all mail clients respect > > > these >

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Sunday, August 13, 2006 at 15:43:06, houghi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > indeed, that is true. BUT: unfortunately not all mail clients respect these > > headers. Or to be more precise: most don't > > That's why houghi (and also I) wer

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread houghi
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 03:18:50PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > indeed, that is true. BUT: unfortunately not all mail clients respect these > headers. Or to be more precise: most don't > That's why houghi (and also I) were pointing to that fact on the list. > > And apparently, there are

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-13-06 03:37]: > lookup in what? does this mean you store locally all the > mails of the list? no, only their addresses 08:42 wahoo:~ > rpm -qi lbdb Name: lbdb Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 0.30

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread jdd
Patrick Shanahan a écrit : * jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-12-06 16:52]: this is _not_ nice. it makes it impossible to join the author of the mail depends I use mutt and lbdb. If a person has sent mail to a list where I'm subscribed and I have received it, I can lookup that person's name a

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-13 Thread jdd
Pascal Bleser a écrit : Email addresses on public mailing-list archives are the biggest help for spammers. There is no way those emails should _not_ be obfuscated. I subscribe many lists with no obfuscation and survive :-). I appreciate returns from archives readers. and this could be human

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jdd wrote: > Henne Vogelsang a écrit : >>> * Its possible on this list to ask to have the adress masked (in the >>> archives only) >> >> ... all email addresses are already obfuscated in our archive by >> stripping the domain part (replacing it by

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-12-06 16:52]: > this is _not_ nice. it makes it impossible to join the > author of the mail depends I use mutt and lbdb. If a person has sent mail to a list where I'm subscribed and I have received it, I can lookup that person's name and get his email addr. 16

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread jdd
Henne Vogelsang a écrit : * use of an "X-No-Archive: yes" header that makes your mail not to be archived at all You can do that. Our archiving system honors this header but.. this is nice * Its possible on this list to ask to have the adress masked (in the archives only) ... all email

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 18:26:18, jdd wrote: > Rajko M a écrit : > > >With present configuration where private addresses are sent out with > >mails to all subscribers > > this is mandatory in the RFC for mails. if not the mail > would be anonymous, not a good practice > > the archi

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread jdd
Rajko M a écrit : Complains here are about Reply To field, but the list server configuration is actually the problem. Rjko, you are actually highjacking a thread :-) There is a very long thread on an other list on this very subject :-) but let's try to find an answer :-) With present con

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Rajko M
Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 06:24:21, Rajko M wrote: >> Henne Vogelsang wrote: >>> On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 18:37:12, houghi wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: It is regretable that the list does not wor as before. I

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"r

2006-08-12 Thread houghi
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 01:00:17PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 18:37:12, houghi wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: > > > > It is regretable that the list does not wor as before. I have not seen any > > complaints that the repl

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Saturday, August 12, 2006 at 06:24:21, Rajko M wrote: > Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 18:37:12, houghi wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: > >> > >> It is regretable that the list does not wor as before. I have not seen any > >> compla

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Rajko M
Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 18:37:12, houghi wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: >> >> It is regretable that the list does not wor as before. I have not seen any >> complaints that the reply was send default to the list. > > As ml-admi

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 18:37:12, houghi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: > > It is regretable that the list does not wor as before. I have not seen any > complaints that the reply was send default to the list. As ml-admin i have seen plenty requests to cha

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-12 Thread Thorolf Godawa
Hi, * this setup is the one of suse-linux-e for years now, and that of most linux related lists And that means it should forever be that way? I think it is a very bad way to do it. The fact that everybody else is doing something does not mean it is the right way. I hate this setup also VERY mu

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread houghi
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 05:15:49PM +0200, jdd wrote: > * this setup is the one of suse-linux-e for years now, and > that of most linux related lists And that means it should forever be that way? I think it is a very bad way to do it. The fact that everybody else is doing something does not mean i

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/08/11 10:39 (GMT-0400) Patrick Shanahan apparently typed: > * Kevin Ivory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-11-06 09:55]: >> thunderbird doesn't > hummm, broken client. Adjust or change! > OR, advise thunderbird developers *they* need to change. They recent provided the back end that allows an ex

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread jdd
Patrick Shanahan a écrit : * Kevin Ivory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-11-06 09:55]: thunderbird doesn't hummm, broken client. Adjust or change! OR, advise thunderbird developers *they* need to change. may I say that: * this setup is the one of suse-linux-e for years now, and that of most lin

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/08/11 15:52 (GMT+0200) Henne Vogelsang apparently typed: > Which mailer does not support it? > kmail does > evolution does > mutt does > pine does The more popular cross-platform ones mostly don't: Mozilla SeaMonkey Thunderbird (extension available to alter this) AFAIK, the most common o

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kevin Ivory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-11-06 09:55]: > > thunderbird doesn't > hummm, broken client. Adjust or change! OR, advise thunderbird developers *they* need to change. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
On 2006-08-11 at 16:17:22 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote (shortened): > > >>> Stefan Bogner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:57 >>> > >Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory: > > thunderbird doesn't > > > >http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ > > > >Stefan > > Thanks for this adv

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> Kevin Ivory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 17:03 >>> On 2006-08-11 15:57, Stefan Bogner wrote:> Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory:>> thunderbird doesn't> > http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/>>been there, done that.>I have mail redirect 0.7.4 installed. That tool is for bouncin

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> Stefan Bogner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:57 >>> >Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory:> thunderbird doesn't>>http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/>>Stefan   Thanks for this advise! In this case, openSUSE should have this extension compiled in the packages. So all openSUSE use

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> Henne Vogelsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:52 >>> >Hi,>>On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 15:18:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:> >>> William Gallafent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:10 >On Friday 11 August 2006 13:53, houghi wrote:> >> > Just noticed that the "Reply-to" is now poin

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin Ivory
On 2006-08-11 15:57, Stefan Bogner wrote: > Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory: >> thunderbird doesn't > > http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ been there, done that. I have mail redirect 0.7.4 installed. That tool is for bouncing mails, not for "reply to list". I use it regularly.

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Stefan Bogner
Am Freitag, 11. August 2006 15:54 schrieb Kevin Ivory: > thunderbird doesn't http://mailredirect.mozdev.org/ Stefan

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin Ivory
On 2006-08-11 15:52, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Which mailer does not support it? > > kmail does > evolution does > mutt does > pine does thunderbird doesn't Kevin -- _ | Kevin Ivory | Tel: +49-551-370 |_ |\ || Service Network GmbH | Fax: +49-551-37

Re: [opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Friday, August 11, 2006 at 15:18:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > >>> William Gallafent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:10 >>> > >On Friday 11 August 2006 13:53, houghi wrote: > > > > Just noticed that the "Reply-to" is now pointed to the > > sender. Could this be adjusted so it is send

[opensuse-factory] List "Reply-To"

2006-08-11 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> William Gallafent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11-08-2006 16:10 >>> >On Friday 11 August 2006 13:53, houghi wrote:>> Just noticed that the "Reply-to" is now pointed to the> sender. Could this be adjusted so it is send to the list> as it was before?>>As far as I can see, there is no "Reply-To" header, i