[opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Birger Kollstrand
Hi, I noticed an earlier discussion on adding additional sources. And I also find it tedious to add additional sources and I can not get my kids to use openSUSE without them :-) Would it be possible to make a link that triggered Yast and added the source when the user manually clicked on it?

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Vincenzo Barranco
Hi, It's a good idea, not only for your kids, because there are a lot of people that try openSUSE for the first time in they're life and don't know how to can see a .mpg file or listen an mp3 with amarok. For me this is a very good idea that give to openSUSE another one reason for consider it a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 17 november 2006 16:53 skrev Birger Kollstrand: I noticed an earlier discussion on adding additional sources. And I also find it tedious to add additional sources and I can not get my kids to use openSUSE without them :-) Would it be possible to make a link that triggered Yast and

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Vincenzo Barranco
Hi, I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well, but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this application? Vincenzo

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
Vincenzo, On Friday 17 November 2006 08:35, Vincenzo Barranco wrote: Hi, I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well, but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this application? ... this kommander script ?? Which kommander script? Vincenzo

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources, Idea?

2006-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Friday 17 November 2006 19:19, Randall R Schulz wrote: Vincenzo, On Friday 17 November 2006 08:35, Vincenzo Barranco wrote: Hi, I tried this kommander script when i had 10.1, it works very well, but who of the new user that try openSUSE for first time know this application? ...

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-23 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 23-10-2006 9:23:48 The media proposal by AJ looks very good to me. I think 5CDs are supportable. But for a future release it would be very nice if the distribution of the packages could be optimized in a way that not so many CDs would be needed for a Standard installation

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-23 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 08:26 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I think you didn't get my point and thus at least should try to reply in 'friendly' mode. Your subtone in the writing is more than... how to say... unfriendly! I did not whine about the CDs at all. I for myself use DVDs

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-23 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 23-10-2006 14:57:11 On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 08:26 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:I think you didn't get my point and thus at least should try to reply in 'friendly' mode. Your subtone in the writing is more than... how to say... unfriendly!I did not whine about the CDs

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-22 Thread Alexey Eremenko
I like it very much to see more packages on the CDs/DVD. (7 CDs vs 5CDs for 10.0) I like this decision. I would really like to see an optional second DVD that has all the rest packages from the FTP tree (otherwise I will download the tree anyways). In real world, it is much faster to spend a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-22 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it very much to see more packages on the CDs/DVD. (7 CDs vs 5CDs for 10.0) I like this decision. I would really like to see an optional second DVD that has all the rest packages from the FTP tree (otherwise I will download the tree anyways).

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources

2006-10-22 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi all, maybe I am offtopic, but I think openSuSE could learn something from Ubuntu. I think that openSuSE should have had extra install sources installed by default ( like Packmann, Guru etc.), and Admin should just enable them,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-22 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-10-21 at 15:23 +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: Carlos E. R. schrieb: 1) ¿Where will go what on 10.1 when to the non-oss tree (non-oss-inst-source)? ¿For instance, where will go the package for Pine? Maybe this has been

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources

2006-10-22 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Ubuntu. I think that openSuSE should have had extra install sources installed by default ( like Packmann, Guru etc.), and Admin should just enable them, read some obligate message about violating law and that these sources

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-22 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-10-20 at 13:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: [adding the ftp tree as add-on media during install] If so, excellent: this would provide the best of both worlds, in that if the DVD contains the latest version of a package, that

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Schlander
Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 04:03 skrev Sid Boyce: In my exprince of bittorrent in downloading CD's, it takes days to get a set, whereas using ftp it's a matter of hours using a 10M cable broadband link. However I have set download/upload weights, it's been just too slow. If that is not the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 04:03 skrev Sid Boyce: In my exprince of bittorrent in downloading CD's, it takes days to get a set, whereas using ftp it's a matter of hours using a 10M cable broadband link. However I have set download/upload

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Schlander
Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 13:13 skrev Eberhard Moenkeberg: But at release time Christoph will prepare a bittorrent seeder again at GWDG, in a different server, like he did before. Great. Between you guys, Peter Czanik and perhaps some of the official servers it should be possible to get some

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Vahis
Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 13:13 skrev Eberhard Moenkeberg: But at release time Christoph will prepare a bittorrent seeder again at GWDG, in a different server, like he did before. Great. Between you guys, Peter Czanik and perhaps some of the official servers

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-10-20 at 12:56 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: * a FTP tree with open source packages (only for the final version) * a FTP tree with binary packages (only for the final version) Questions: 1) ¿Where will go what on 10.1 when to

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 13:00 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 04:03 skrev Sid Boyce: In my exprince of bittorrent in downloading CD's, it takes days to get a set, whereas using ftp it's a matter of hours using a 10M cable broadband link. However I have set

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread jdd
Kenneth Schneider a écrit : This I would say is the only issue, people use torrent to download and choke off any upload to others making torrent slow to others. This is why I only use FTP. the problem is probably not exactly that one. p2p users are used to have a share given to the rest of

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Saturday 21 October 2006 12:29, Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 13:13 skrev Eberhard Moenkeberg: But at release time Christoph will prepare a bittorrent seeder again at GWDG, in a different server, like he did before. Great. Between you guys, Peter Czanik and perhaps some

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Sid Boyce
Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 13:00 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 04:03 skrev Sid Boyce: In my exprince of bittorrent in downloading CD's, it takes days to get a set, whereas using ftp it's a matter of hours using a 10M cable broadband link.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 21:06 +0100, Sid Boyce wrote: Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 13:00 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: Lørdag 21 oktober 2006 04:03 skrev Sid Boyce: In my exprince of bittorrent in downloading CD's, it takes days to get a set, whereas using ftp it's a

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 13:00 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: I hope Peter Czanik's offer is accepted. And that if it doesn't mean a lot of extra work we can have fast bittorrent downloads of dvd isos. Is Eberhard out there somewhere trying to avoid this issue? Can gwdg.de seed? This really is

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-21 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Sat, 21 Oct 2006, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 13:00 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: I hope Peter Czanik's offer is accepted. And that if it doesn't mean a lot of extra work we can have fast bittorrent downloads of dvd isos. Is Eberhard out there somewhere trying to

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adrian Reply on 20-10-2006 14:04:56 We're currently planning to produce the following media for installation: * 5 CDs, you need CDs 1-3 for a normal installation with just GNOME or KDE (any language) I think 5CDs are supportable.

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread William Gallafent
On Friday 20 October 2006 12:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Implemented in a slightly different way - we ask to add the ftp trees (currently factory) during install, you should see this first time with Beta1, Does that mean that I can have the DVD/CD _and_ and FTP tree as installation sources

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 20 October 2006 11:56, Andreas Jaeger wrote: We're currently planning to produce the following media for installation: * 5 CDs, you need CDs 1-3 for a normal installation with just GNOME or KDE (any language) * 1 AddOn CD with only binary packages on it * 1 AddOn CD with

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Martin Schlander
Fredag 20 oktober 2006 12:56 skrev Andreas Jaeger: * 1 AddOn CD with only binary packages on it * 1 AddOn CD with language packages that are used for our tier 2 languages (tier 1 languages are english, french, italian, spanish, german, chinese, japanese and czech - and support for those

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Andreas Jaeger
William Gallafent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 20 October 2006 12:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Implemented in a slightly different way - we ask to add the ftp trees (currently factory) during install, you should see this first time with Beta1, Does that mean that I can have the DVD/CD

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Hugo Costelha
On Friday 20 October 2006 12:38, Sid Boyce wrote: Hugo Costelha wrote: On Friday 20 October 2006 11:56, Andreas Jaeger wrote: We're currently planning to produce the following media for installation: * 5 CDs, you need CDs 1-3 for a normal installation with just GNOME or KDE (any

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hugo Costelha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I think that one idea that has been mentioned, and that it would work rather well, is to also distribute the DVD for all the alfa/beta stages, but only through torrent. This way you wouldn't waste bandwidth with your mirros, you would actually

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 20-10-2006 15:08:21 Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any reason you don't mention box/dvd9? I hope it isn't dropped. The DVD9 which will be in the box will never find it's way to the servers and that's why I did not mention it. We plan to for the box CDs to use CDs 1-5

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reply on 20-10-2006 15:08:21 Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any reason you don't mention box/dvd9? I hope it isn't dropped. The DVD9 which will be in the box will never find it's way to the servers and that's why I did not

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Reply on 20-10-2006 15:16:19 "Dominique Leuenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reply on 20-10-2006 15:08:21 Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any reason you don't mention box/dvd9? I hope it isn't dropped.The DVD9 which will be in the box will never find it's way to the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread jdd
Andreas Jaeger a écrit : We're currently planning to produce the following media for installation: there are always many questions on what is the content of the cd/dvd. may be it's enough to give a symlink to the archive.gz of this cd if this one is available on the ftp tree (or a raw

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Andreas Jaeger wrote: We would still seed it from our servers - at least initially - and experience has shown that our servers are saturated, it will not work if this is just our servers. If a couple of mirrors help with bittorrent seeding, we will see what and when we can do this,

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Sid Boyce
Hugo Costelha wrote: On Friday 20 October 2006 12:38, Sid Boyce wrote: Hugo Costelha wrote: On Friday 20 October 2006 11:56, Andreas Jaeger wrote: We're currently planning to produce the following media for installation: * 5 CDs, you need CDs 1-3 for a normal installation with just GNOME or

Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2

2006-10-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
The media proposal by AJ looks very good to me. I think 5CDs are supportable. But for a future release it would be very nice if the distribution of the packages could be optimized in a way that not so many CDs would be needed for a Standard installation (standard installation shall mean what