Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-28 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Saturday 26 August 2006 19:25, Andreas Hanke wrote: > jdd schrieb: > > but why couldn't you have _one_ > > repository and _several_ metadata files? why not? it looks like you can have as much primary's, other, filelists etc as you want. http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/repo";> ... .. .

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-26 Thread Andreas Hanke
jdd schrieb: > but why couldn't you have _one_ > repository and _several_ metadata files? That's not possible with rpm-md. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-26 Thread jdd
forget my mail if it's stupid, but why couldn't you have _one_ repository and _several_ metadata files? clients only parse metadata file? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_phot

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Andreas Hanke wrote: Andreas Hanke schrieb: - Separate repositories for source packages - bad idea IMHO. Why do you think this is a bad idea ? Because they would be harder to find, resulting in fake GPL violation discussions on this list :-( Another point to con

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
Andreas Hanke schrieb: >>> - Separate repositories for source packages - bad idea IMHO. >> >> Why do you think this is a bad idea ? > > Because they would be harder to find, resulting in fake GPL violation > discussions on this list :-( Another point to consider: If it becomes possible to mirror

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 25. 2006 16:24]: > Hi, > > Klaus Kaempf schrieb: > >> - Separate repositories per architecture - not possible because SUSE > >> repositories have always been multiarch. > > > > It not impossible, but needs extra work. Currently its also nice to > > publish

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Klaus Kaempf schrieb: >> - Separate repositories per architecture - not possible because SUSE >> repositories have always been multiarch. > > It not impossible, but needs extra work. Currently its also nice to > publish only one repo URL without the need to distinguish between > different arc

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 25. 2006 15:24]: [...] > 22000 total packages in a SINGLE repository. > > Fedora: > > 2200 packages in the repository most people are interested in (i586 > binary + noarch, no debuginfo, no source, no other architectures). > > 22000/2200 is a factor of 10

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > This makes me seriously doubt that rpm-md is designed or even suitable > for such huge repositories. It's not surprising that parsing this beast > is slow, even with a fast parser. It also makes me doubt that improving > the parser is the only wa

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Joerg Mayer schrieb: > OK, so you are proposing a *workaround* for a known and very severe > problem. Especially with factory, we should *not* concentrate on > workaround but on *fixes*! So as long as factory is a development > branch, this *should not* be done. Joerg, this is a valid point i

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > Related question: do you know anything about when fixes introduced here: > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=201164 will hit the factory > repository? Installer files are still from 18th August, and thus > severely broken... With the ne

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] > For Factory, the ratio of people who need them is probably larger than > for a released version. The proposal was primarily intended for the > released versions. OK, now we have it for Factory, too. You have it for factory first ;-) Future repo

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 10:45:56AM +0200, Adrian Schroeter wrote: > Basicaly two reasons: > > 1. Mirrors can skip the debuginfo packages, without an exclude rule and >without to "break" the repository meta data. > > 2. The installers have less meta data to handle by default (when you ignore

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Friday 25 August 2006 04:14 schrieb Robert Schiele: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:01:14PM +0200, Adrian Schroeter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into > > a separated repository. > > I wonder why I didn't catch a single one of these "pop

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 05:54:18AM +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: > Someone has to parse all this stuff. I mean, the metadata. It is well > known that zypp parses the repository metadata slowly. It has already > become faster and it will become even better, but it's still slow. > > And it's not just

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Adrian Schröter írta: > on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into a > separated repository. > Thanks, this was a very good idea. Finally I don't need to use --exclude in rsync in my mirror scripts, and I hope, it will significantly decrease the RAM and CP

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-25 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And it's not just zypp. Yum, with the new(!) C metadata parser written > by Tambet Ingo, needs half a minute to parse primary.xml and again half > a minute to parse filelists.xml on my laptop. I don't even want to know > how slow it would be with the old

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-24 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Robert Schiele schrieb: > But what was the _reason_ for the debuginfo split? Just that some people > wanted to have it without having a reason? this was my proposal and is therefore my "fault". https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=197823 So I'd like to defend myself. There are curr

Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-24 Thread Robert Schiele
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:01:14PM +0200, Adrian Schroeter wrote: > Hi, > > on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into a > separated repository. I wonder why I didn't catch a single one of these "popular requests" on this mailing list. > We will have SL-OSS-Factor

[opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-24 Thread Adrian Schröter
Hi, on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into a separated repository. We will have SL-OSS-Factory and SL-OSS-Factory-debug directories with the next sync. Users of the opensuse-full or opensuse-full-with-factory modules do not have to change anything. I hope t