[opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-02 Thread Rafał Miłecki
There is a well-discused bug on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097 about opensuse-updater. I posted some idea of resolving this, which I find quite fine. You can find this in comment #57: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097#c57 Could some developer focus o

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-02 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Monday 02 July 2007 22:12:01 skrev Rafał Miłecki: > Could some > developer focus on this bug before publishing 10.3? It wouldn't be nice to > remove ZMD and don't give any alternative wayof watching repositories for > updates of _any_ kind (not these securityones only). I think Duncan stated t

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-02 Thread Benji Weber
-On 02/07/07, Rafał Miłecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a well-discused bug on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216097 about opensuse-updater. I posted some idea of resolving this, which I find quite fine. You can find this in comment #57: https://bugzilla.novell.com

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-02 Thread Rajko M.
Hi Benji, On Monday 02 July 2007 15:51, Benji Weber wrote: > It may be we need 3 policies: > > - Updates only (as default now) This is important for every user, and leaves system stable. > - Updates and version upgrades from same vendor as installed package > (e.g. if you install xine from pack

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-03 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Benji Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 02. 2007 22:51]: > > There are also other things to be decided, like how to resolve package > vendor "bouncing" where the user has e.g. guru & kde-backports > repositories subscribed and the updater first updates to one then the > other version of amarok, gai

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 09:06 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: ... > There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose from? Ie, a selection to choose aside from "secu

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-03 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 09:06 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > ... > > > There might be even another approach - updating by repository. > > Why not "find out what is updatable and s

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-03 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 13:48 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > > There might be even another approach - updating by repository. > > > > Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose > > from? Ie, a selection to choose aside

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-03 Thread Gabriel
Klaus Kaempf escribió: > * Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: >>> There might be even another approach - updating by repository. >> Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose >> from? Ie, a selection to choose aside from "security patches only / all"

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Adrian Schröter
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: > The Tuesday 2007-07-03 at 13:48 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > > > There might be even another approach - updating by repository. > > > > > > Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose > > > from? Ie, a selection t

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Adrian Schröter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: > > > > Ahhh... oops, right. Mmm... Then, show what is updatable for each repo, > > perhaps show a list by repo? > > I would like to avoid user confusing by showing a large numbers

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 04. 2007 02:51]: > Klaus Kaempf escribió: > > * Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: > >>> There might be even another approach - updating by repository. > >> Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I can choose > >> from? Ie,

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Gabriel
Klaus Kaempf escribió: > * Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 04. 2007 02:51]: >> Klaus Kaempf escribió: >>> * Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 03. 2007 11:32]: > There might be even another approach - updating by repository. Why not "find out what is updatable and show a list where I c

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Benji Weber
On 04/07/07, Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that smart is capable of manage it. You can have a look at the source to see what is doing. Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer versioned packages regardless of the vendor/repository. _ Benjamin Weber --

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Benji Weber escribió: > Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer > versioned packages regardless of the vendor/repository. > Yup, smart is no model of good behaviuor in this case...and better not to talk about the mess it produces in 64 bit systems..;-) signature.asc

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benji Weber schreef: > On 04/07/07, Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It seems that smart is capable of manage it. >> You can have a look at the source to see what is doing. > > Smart handles this quite badly, it just blindly upgrades to newer >

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-07-04 at 10:45 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > * Adrian Schröter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: > > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: > > > > > > Ahhh... oops, right. Mmm... Then, show what is updatable

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Rafał Miłecki
2007/7/4, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-07-04 at 10:45 +0200, Klaus Kaempf wrote: > * Adrian Schröter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 04. 2007 09:37]: > > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:43:02 wrote Carlos E. R.: > > > > > > Ahhh... oo

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-04 Thread Rajko M.
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:23, Rafał Miłecki wrote: > 2007/7/4, Carlos E. R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Anyway, I suppose that if the user has activated a dozen repos, he must > > be prepared for some confussion, but he surely must be interested in > > knowing what is new from all, sorted some

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-05 Thread Rafał Miłecki
Have one question: there is for ex. freetype in my system installed as RPM. Does YaST know where from is this RPM installed (DVD/update/packman/etc.)? -- Rafał Miłecki

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-05 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Rafał Miłecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 05. 2007 13:13]: > Have one question: there is for ex. freetype in my system installed as > RPM. Does YaST know where from is this RPM installed > (DVD/update/packman/etc.)? No, not in openSUSE 10.2 We are working on a solution, though. Klaus

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-05 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:23:20 Rafał Miłecki wrote: > Method of managing updates is hard to create but is also hightly > needed. Lack of updaing applications from 3rd party repositories may > be really dangerous. Don't mix upgrading with updating. Guru and packman just upgrade the packages. T

Re: [opensuse-factory] opensuse-updater: "Check for any kind updates" option?

2007-07-05 Thread Juan Erbes
2007/7/5, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:23:20 Rafał Miłecki wrote: > Method of managing updates is hard to create but is also hightly > needed. Lack of updaing applications from 3rd party repositories may > be really dangerous. Don't mix upgrading with