RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Drew McAuliffe
OTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP My measurement is that they're exactly the same speed, when both are optimised correctly (at least, in webwork) On Feb 22, 2004, at 8:13 AM, Konstantin Priblouda wrote: > > --- remigijus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok it

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
remigijus wrote: But got one more question. Why are you going to drop JBoss? I thought to start using JBoss in my new projects. Well, we're not using anything in JBoss that is not also available in Tomcat, so what's the point of having it? It's just bloat. Chews up memory, and the UCL system is..

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread remigijus
- Original Message - From: "Rickard Öberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP > remigijus wrote: > > Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
Erik Jõgi wrote: Rickard Öberg wrote ... 2) Great performance 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP files do) ... where does the performance win over JSPs come from? As JSPs are compiled into servlets, how do you beat that? Don't know, don't care. It's just faster :-) That's probably not

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
remigijus wrote: Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'm just curious. How many hits you are getting per day and peak load? What hardware and software do you use? We do load tests sometimes, but it's hard to compare that with reality. In reality, we do have one web hotel server which curr

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Hani Suleiman
My measurement is that they're exactly the same speed, when both are optimised correctly (at least, in webwork) On Feb 22, 2004, at 8:13 AM, Konstantin Priblouda wrote: --- remigijus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'm just curious. How many hits you are g

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Konstantin Priblouda
--- Erik_Jõgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rickard Öberg wrote > > ... > > 2) Great performance > > 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP > files do) > > ... > > where does the performance win over JSPs come from? > As JSPs are compiled > into servlets, how do you beat that? Did yo

RE: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Erik Jõgi
> Rickard Öberg wrote > ... > 2) Great performance > 3) Templates does not have to be in files (JSP files do) > ... where does the performance win over JSPs come from? As JSPs are compiled into servlets, how do you beat that? if you don't put your templates into separate files, then where do you

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Konstantin Priblouda
--- remigijus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok it sounds nice, I'm not against velocity, I'm > just curious. > How many hits you are getting per day and peak load? > What hardware and software do you use? > Did you tryed to look at Freemarker, how can you > compare Freemarker vs > Velocity. My per

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread remigijus
Öberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP > Eric Webb wrote: > > Since moving to web application frameworks (jakarta turbine and ww2) > > I've exclusively used velocit

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
Eric Webb wrote: Since moving to web application frameworks (jakarta turbine and ww2) I've exclusively used velocity. I find velocity's syntax to be simple, clean, and sufficently powerful for constructing views. I mean, when you get down to it, a view is simply html (in most cases), and veloc

Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-21 Thread Eric Webb
Most of the JSP work i have done was in the model 1 style (ie: lots of business domain code in the jsp files). I found it very exciting at the time, and was able to do a lot of interesting things. Since moving to web application frameworks (jakarta turbine and ww2) I've exclusively used veloci

[OS-webwork] Velocity vs. JSP

2004-02-21 Thread Erik Jõgi
Hello, Following the 'Tomcat out of memory' thread in this list I got the impression that several people were suggesting to Velocity instead of JSPs for for the views. I haven't got any experience with Velocity besides looking at the stuff that is part of WebWork but for some reason I have had